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Smith had been asked why, given his enormous proportions and prodigious raw strength (400+ lbs at 6’0 or so, incline Smith presses with over 700 pounds, 1000+ lb single leg presses, Smith squats with 9 plates, side laterals with 150 lb dumbbells etc etc) he didn’t compete in powerlifting.

He responded in his usual sarcastic fashion. I believe he was giving an example of why HE felt a powerlifting style of training was not suited to him, and not an indictment of the sport itself.

As to his claims about adrenaline: who knows? On the one hand, having read virtually everything the man ever wrote I can say he was not beyond a little exaggeration in his writing. On the other, he was a steroid guru and wrote reams on cycling, dosage, exotic drugs, site injections.

In any case, the only reason it came up is because he was a big mofo and this is a thread devoted to them. Enough about that.


Also, before someone starts bitching about the side lateral comment here’s a screencap from his training vid.

I can only assume he cheated his ass off. At least I assume that, because a 150 lb side lateral with any kind of decent form would pretty much ruin my self esteem for all time :frowning:

are there any vids of TS training? Couldn’t find any on youtube.

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
are there any vids of TS training? Couldn’t find any on youtube.[/quote]

He made a DVD of his training, with the weights etc. and techniques. Sadly he died before it could get released, his wife owns the rights to it and won’t release it to the public.

[quote]SkyNett wrote:
I think people have the idea that they’re either “on” a diet or “off” - meanwhile, that type of black & white view just doesn’t hold up in the long run, because it’s impossible to maintain a miserable diet of dry tuna and boiled chicken every day for the rest of your life…

I think people need to see this as a long-term commitment - I mean really long term. Years and years, which means you need to balance what works, with what you can live with on a daily basis.

People can spout all the platitudes they want about sacking up and doing whatever miserable shit is necessary for BB success, but it’s way more realistic to accept more of a balanced approach. Last week I got up and had a protein shake for breakfast, trained heavy legs, didn’t even open my bottle of Surge and instead went to the sushi buffet and put away three huge plates…

Point being that you need to see your diet as a flexible thing or you’re probably just going to fuck up and eat a dozen donuts…

To me, unless you’re dieting down to low single digit bodyfat, the rest of your life has room for real food, as long as you’re training hard you shouldn’t be afraid to eat - within reason of course.

I know there’s a real push around here to proclaim that no one ever made changes with slow, steady progress, and instead the only approach that works is an aggressive sledge-hammer, but I call total bullshit on that.

Do the right thing on a weekly basis, stop trying to live on fucking chemicals and powder, and eat some fucking food. Growth will surely follow. As for the folks out there that would call many of the physiques in this thread “fat”… [/quote]

Excellent post.


Some references for getting huge, and being huge…

~Professor X training, diet, and history:

http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/blog_sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_alpha/gimme_an_bxb

~Beginner questions answered:

http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/blog_sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_alpha/qotw_5_january_2009

http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/blog_sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_alpha/qotw_29_december_2008

http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/blog_sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_alpha/qotw_22_december_08

http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/blog_sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_alpha/newb_qotw_11_dec_2008

http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/blog_sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_alpha/newb_qotw_when_to_cut

~Bauer training, diet, and history:

http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/blog_sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_alpha/the_bauer_chronicles

~Heavythrower training, diet, and history:

http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/blog_sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_alpha/arise_heavythrower

~Members, before and after:

http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/blog_sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_alpha/members_before_and_after

We stand on the shoulders of giants.


Quincy Taylor.

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No one is gonna tell this guy he can’t wear pink.

Trey with a mere mortal

[quote]mr popular wrote:
Trey with a mere mortal[/quote]

Not to draw away from the greatness of the bulk, but what’s up with the “mere-mortal?” Strange proportions on the guy… I almost thought it was fake.

Strange.


Zack Khan

[quote]SSC wrote:
Not to draw away from the greatness of the bulk, but what’s up with the “mere-mortal?” Strange proportions on the guy… I almost thought it was fake.

Strange.[/quote]

Not really sure what you mean. Are you referring to his impressive bicep peak?

This pic is McGrath I believe.


Cannonball!

[quote]mr popular wrote:
No one is gonna tell this guy he can’t wear pink.[/quote]

wow…impressive. Those traps are insane. Any idea who that is or is that just a random customer checking out the booths?

I couldn’t figure out who it was.

Crazy back/trap development though.

[quote]mr popular wrote:
Quincy Taylor.[/quote]

QT FTW! He’s awesome.

That is one powerful physique.

Arnold shows us that textbook form isn’t always necessary for building the biggest muscles you can.


classic.

[quote]mr popular wrote:
Arnold shows us that textbook form isn’t always necessary for building the biggest muscles you can.[/quote]

LOL ok, that’s a bit over the top though :wink: