[quote]MarvelGirl wrote:
RSGZ wrote:
MarvelGirl wrote:
“No group is more stigmatized than the obese.”
As someone who works in the adult industry, I call bullshit on that statement.
You work in the adult industry?
I’m a dominatrix (the brutal kind, not the sexy kind) and I run a online and phone aspect of my domination business. I also run 9 characters covering varying fetishes and regular vanilla phone sex. I have a couple of fan sites where I sell pictures and videos (some of them are me and some are content that I purchase with rights to resell.) I also write erotica and sell audio recordings of my stories.
I do webcam now and then and when I really go stir crazy I’m a licensed Las Vegas stripper.
So yeah, adult industry although I only have sex with my husband or occasionally a girlfriend.[/quote]
Holy shit, did this thread just get REALLY interesting or what?
[quote]MarvelGirl wrote:
“No group is more stigmatized than the obese.”
As someone who works in the adult industry, I call bullshit on that statement.[/quote]
yeah, i can’t believe they said that.
i’ve noticed lately that overweight people around me, especially at work, try to give me a hard time. they’ll get together and make weird announcements about diet and exercise as if i will jump in and state my case.
seriously, i’ve never said, yeah, i’ll take a bagel. ooh, are those cookies you brought in? can i have some? you’re ordering dinner for lunch? count me in. i just say no, thank you.
me, minding my business, going out for lunch and munching on fruits or yogurt gets them all lathered up for some reason. i’ve never said to anyone what they should do with their lives.
just seeing someone not doing what they’re doing is intolerable. i guess being fat is so much the norm now that people literally lose their minds if you’re not on the bandwagon with them. stigmatized. please.
there’s information out there on what to do. people know about it. they quote all kinds of sources. then, they laugh and say but i don’t want to do that. that is what i call a choice.
I saw a homeless extremely obese man today holding a “Help, I’m out of work” sign. I don’t know why, but I am guessing his ability to acquire spare change is greatly reduced as a result.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
MarvelGirl wrote:
RSGZ wrote:
MarvelGirl wrote:
“No group is more stigmatized than the obese.”
As someone who works in the adult industry, I call bullshit on that statement.
You work in the adult industry?
I’m a dominatrix (the brutal kind, not the sexy kind) and I run a online and phone aspect of my domination business. I also run 9 characters covering varying fetishes and regular vanilla phone sex. I have a couple of fan sites where I sell pictures and videos (some of them are me and some are content that I purchase with rights to resell.) I also write erotica and sell audio recordings of my stories.
I do webcam now and then and when I really go stir crazy I’m a licensed Las Vegas stripper.
So yeah, adult industry although I only have sex with my husband or occasionally a girlfriend.
Holy shit, did this thread just get REALLY interesting or what?[/quote]
[quote]MarvelGirl wrote:
RSGZ wrote:
MarvelGirl wrote:
“No group is more stigmatized than the obese.”
As someone who works in the adult industry, I call bullshit on that statement.
You work in the adult industry?
I’m a dominatrix (the brutal kind, not the sexy kind) and I run a online and phone aspect of my domination business. I also run 9 characters covering varying fetishes and regular vanilla phone sex. I have a couple of fan sites where I sell pictures and videos (some of them are me and some are content that I purchase with rights to resell.) I also write erotica and sell audio recordings of my stories.
I do webcam now and then and when I really go stir crazy I’m a licensed Las Vegas stripper.
So yeah, adult industry although I only have sex with my husband or occasionally a girlfriend.[/quote]
…friend requests and profile views multiplying geometricallly…
[quote]Producer wrote:
The only time I hate a fat person is when they make excuses. If they want to be fat, that’s fine with me. Just expect non-fat people to think you look disgusting, and expect to pay for 2 seats when you fly on the airplane.[/quote]
x2 God that pisses me off! Those seats are small enough as it is.
Notice, too, that the author is a research physician in a genetics lab. It’s in his best interests to make a statement like this, because then he gets more grants and research money to fund further research so that he make more claims to support this, thus getting more money, etc, etc. I completely agree that obesity is totally a choice. 9 months ago, I was 225 at 24% BF; now down to 195 and about 12% BF because I chose to stop making the excuse that I had too much work to do and get out of bed an hour earlier and get my fat ass into the gym. I hate crap like this, and it extends to so many other facets in life. We truly are the excuse generation.
“If you think it is hard to lose 10 to 20 pounds (and it is), try to imagine what it would feel like to lose many tens or even hundreds of pounds.”
How did the people get “many tens or even hundreds of pounds” overweight to begin with? Most people I know will get somewhat overweight, then realize it and work to lose the weight before it becomes so severe a problem. He is right, it is hard to lose 10 or 20 pounds (I’ve done it a few times), but hard is NOT impossible, it is just hard!
Denial is not a river in Egypt!
[quote]RSGZ wrote:
Professor X wrote:
MarvelGirl wrote:
RSGZ wrote:
MarvelGirl wrote:
“No group is more stigmatized than the obese.”
As someone who works in the adult industry, I call bullshit on that statement.
You work in the adult industry?
I’m a dominatrix (the brutal kind, not the sexy kind) and I run a online and phone aspect of my domination business. I also run 9 characters covering varying fetishes and regular vanilla phone sex. I have a couple of fan sites where I sell pictures and videos (some of them are me and some are content that I purchase with rights to resell.) I also write erotica and sell audio recordings of my stories.
I do webcam now and then and when I really go stir crazy I’m a licensed Las Vegas stripper.
So yeah, adult industry although I only have sex with my husband or occasionally a girlfriend.
Holy shit, did this thread just get REALLY interesting or what?
No kidding.
You go girl![/quote]
I’m torn between x3’ing this or “OMFG ROFL” at SteelyD post…
Can this thread now be about your business, and maybe what you look for in an accountant?
[quote]Blaze_108 wrote:
They may have a genetic disposition towards a high body fat, but that doesn’t mean they are doomed to obesity. They just have to try harder than the average person. It’s pretty simple to say that they won’t be able to gain weight on a calorie defecit. Every male in my dad’s side of the family has a pot belly, but that just means i have to try to keep my bodyfat a little lower. It doesn’t necessarily mean that I WILL have one. Seems like this article is just going to give obese people more material to justify their lack of effort.[/quote]
[quote]MarvelGirl wrote:
My point though is that fat people are full of shit when they claim discrimination. I’ve never heard of a person being asked to leave a party or public event because someone “recognized” their fatness. I, on the other hand, have had that experience.
There is no damn stigma with being fat, most people just aren’t sexually attracted to fat rolls. It’s asinine for a group to claim discrimination because the majority doesn’t want to fuck them. Otherwise, I suppose ugly people or people with herpes could make the same claim. Those fatties don’t even know what stigma is if they think that they have it rough.[/quote]
i say BULL SHITT, i know that there are some cases of people having trobule with their hormones and that shit, but i’d bet my head that those are less than the 5% of obese people.
i’ve been obese for… well most of my life, and i can tell that it was a decision, i don’t think that my genes made me gain 50 pounds of fat, i think it was the 2 litter soda i drank sometimes, the 15-20 tortillas i had with some of my meals, the ton of sugar i added to my lemon or orange water, etc.
obviously i didn’t say, well i wanna be obese, but there were so many thing that i could do, change, avoid or whatever.
the good part it’s than now i got the guts to lose some fat, i’ve lost 33pounds so far, and guess what, it was my CHOICE, not my genes.
my point is, for the fat people out there, don’t blame your goddamn genes, and think twice before eating that hamburguer.
NEARLY 10 PERCENT of morbidly obese individuals carry defects in genes that regulate food intake, metabolism, and body weight. The evidence further indicates that the rest of the obese population carries genetic alterations in other, as yet unidentified, single genes or combinations of genes (polygenes) interacting with environmental factors.
Beans is a math guy, so he can check this for us… but wouldn’t the amount of morbidly obese people WITHOUT a valid genetic excuse be greater than 90%. You know, like a one in ten chance that you get to be the ‘lucky’ one?
[quote]grettiron wrote:
in “good calories bad calories” where i’m reading now, he’s talking about how low carb diets and exercise are not effective for weight loss, because once you stop the diet, the weight comes back. then i’m reminded of something one of the authors on here has said (Shugart maybe?): you don’t stop the diet or the exercise. that is your new lifestyle. if you return to the way you have eaten and behaved in the past, of course you will put the weight back on![/quote]
I read that book and he goes on and on about the hormonal effects of diet, then totally ignores the hormonal effects of training. He also looks at training at as a means to solely weight loss, and ignores the physical, mental, and other benefits of being strong, in shape, and able to do hard things on a regular basis. In the end he says exercise is not worth it and to just eat right, which I think is short sighted.
Onto the article, it reminds me of Cheryl Hayworth, the USA olympic weightlifting female record holder or something like that. I read an interview or something where she described being younger and not being able to stop eating. She ate and ate, and grew and grew. She’s a big girl and an olympic athlete, but she’s still ‘fat’ but is it her fault? Even w/ all her athletic accomplishments, I bet she went through some pretty rough stuff growing up large.
Some people may in fact have a serious condition where they will be fat even w/ proper diet and nutrition and they probably could use some compassion. Otherwise, I agree w/ most everbody and it is the other 95% of fat people are fat because they eat like shit and sit on their ass that give legitimate fat people a bad name.
I wonder what would happen if somebody bought a big truck and mounted a harpoon on the back. Then put a big cartoon logo of a morbidly obese individual w/ a dumb grin on their eating a donut in some crosshairs w/ like Duke’s Land Whaling on it, then parked it front of McDonald’s, manned the harpoon, and stared down people as they went in and out. I think that might really freak some people out.
[quote]Mad_Duck wrote:
From Page 2 of the article:
NEARLY 10 PERCENT of morbidly obese individuals carry defects in genes that regulate food intake, metabolism, and body weight. The evidence further indicates that the rest of the obese population carries genetic alterations in other, as yet unidentified, single genes or combinations of genes (polygenes) interacting with environmental factors.
Beans is a math guy, so he can check this for us… but wouldn’t the amount of morbidly obese people WITHOUT a valid genetic excuse be greater than 90%. You know, like a one in ten chance that you get to be the ‘lucky’ one? [/quote]
What’s your point? You don’t need to be a “math guy.” If 10 percents are known to have some defects, that leaves 90 percent without a KNOWN defect. There’s no way to tell how many of the remaining 90 percent have an as-yet unknown defect and how many don’t.
Quick answer, they would probably be arrested. For loitering, or scaring away customers, or aiming a lethal weapon at people.
I love how they cited that instance of the kid without leptin, like that one person in the entire world’s population can justify the hormonal defects of the rest of the fatsos. Sure, genes cause problems, but diet and exercise can change your body’s gene expression. If your mommy ate a bunch of french fries while she was pregnant, you will be more likely to store fat. Sure she was getting a shit-ton of calories, but the baby and her body saw it as malnutrition because of the sheer lack of well… nutrition. That’s your body’s defense mechanism of living in a place with a poor diet, your body will store as much as possible. I didn’t just make this up, it’s in Survival of the Sickest (book).
But this thread is ridiculous, getting a website filled exclusively with athletes and asking them what they think about fat people. But it still caught my attention.