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Obama's News Conference

I am surprised nobody started this thread, so allow me. My grade over all was a C-. Obama needs to get out of campaign mode…It sounded like he was campaigning still.

This whole smoke screen of bi-partisanship, while in the same breath, blaming the republicans for the problem isn’t going to get things done. Lest he forget that congress has been under democrat control for 4 years prior to his election. Whether you like Bush or not, one thing is certain, congress, be it democrat or republican voted with him most of the time.

Bush was a fiscal idiot, but the whole of the republican party is not to blame alone. The democrats had much to do with it. So much for bi-partisanship.

He also really hasn’t figured out that people are against the stimulus because of what’s in it, not because it simply exists. Like a dead fish, the longer it sit out, the more it stinks.

If they really want to do an honest stimulus they need to scrap this piece of shit and start over, but this time keep Nancy Pelosi out of it. It is her, not Obama, that made this thing stink on ice.

Personally, I have no doubt the economy will bounce back on it’s own. If there is one thing Americans know how to make, it’s money. After all the aftershocks from the initial earthquake subsides, things will start to improve.

I disagree whole heatedly with Obama’s notion that only government can save the economy…Government sticking it’s nose in it cause the whole subprime mess. We know government can break it, there is little evidence that it can fix it.

[quote]pat wrote:
I am surprised nobody started this thread, so allow me. My grade over all was a C-. Obama needs to get out of campaign mode…It sounded like he was campaigning still.

This whole smoke screen of bi-partisanship, while in the same breath, blaming the republicans for the problem isn’t going to get things done. Lest he forget that congress has been under democrat control for 4 years prior to his election. Whether you like Bush or not, one thing is certain, congress, be it democrat or republican voted with him most of the time.

Bush was a fiscal idiot, but the whole of the republican party is not to blame alone. The democrats had much to do with it. So much for bi-partisanship.

He also really hasn’t figured out that people are against the stimulus because of what’s in it, not because it simply exists. Like a dead fish, the longer it sit out, the more it stinks.

If they really want to do an honest stimulus they need to scrap this piece of shit and start over, but this time keep Nancy Pelosi out of it. It is her, not Obama, that made this thing stink on ice.

Personally, I have no doubt the economy will bounce back on it’s own. If there is one thing Americans know how to make, it’s money. After all the aftershocks from the initial earthquake subsides, things will start to improve.

I disagree whole heatedly with Obama’s notion that only government can save the economy…Government sticking it’s nose in it cause the whole subprime mess. We know government can break it, there is little evidence that it can fix it.[/quote]

Pat,

I predict the press will become more aggressive as the polls fall.

It’s a sad commentary how caught up in the numbers they are. Honestly, their tone was different right after 9/11 toward Bush when his numbers were high.

A few things: He referred to Japan’s “lost decade.” You know why it was lost? They tried to spend their way out of their recession. They quadrupled their national debt and it didn’t work.

Second, that press conference was massively partisan. There wasn’t much if anything for Republicans or Conservatives.

Bipartisanship ISN’T letting pelosi write the bill. It isn’t getting three Republican votes out of 500+ members of the Congress.

He can’t rail against the deficit spending of Republicans while proposing to double/triple it himself.

The Tax cuts lead to 52 months of growth under Bush. They weren’t the cause for this current economic downturn. The majority of that blame falls at the feet of the banks.

Finally, I think he’s used much of his political capital trying to sell this stinker. He’s energizing Conservatives. He’s giving them a PERFECT avenue to reestablish their fiscal bona fides.

I’m going to give the man credit when I think it’s due.

I think he did a nice job staying on message. I disagreed with him, but, he was able to dominate the message last night.

JeffR

Bush was a fiscal idiot, but this guy doesn’t have a clue. Uh…I thought the debate on the…uh…New Deal was over. Uh…the problem in Japan…uh…was not that the had a…uh…government stimulus, but…uh…that they didn’t spend enough or react…uh…soon enough.

Here you go, Barry, for your viewing pleasure:

We are still paying for the New Deal today, and likely will be until our demise. I do agree with him that negotiations are pointless between him and those for no intervention. I’m all for intervention if it involves tax cuts that actually create jobs and increase investments, but we don’t need anymore make work pay crap or worthless tax credits. The new $15k homebuyer credit that he thinks will “stabilize” the housing market is a huge joke that’s getting little press time.

Let’s see, the big reason for this mess is government intrusion that made it easy for low income families to get into homes they could not afford, thus increasing demand for housing and allowing the prices to skyrocket. So, what shall we…uh…do to fix this? Why don’t we give a huge refundable tax credit, only to first time homebuyers, so that demand for housing can explode once again. Surely that will fix all of our housing problems.

Don’t even get me started on his no pork or earmarks comments. Do we dismiss him on a technicality or call him out for the liar that he is? This guy is an absolute croc.

This is not going to end well. And for the love of God, give him a teleprompter next time. Watching him speak without it is painful.

Wow. That’s all I can say about that presser. Obama was…underwhelming, at best. He’s better than Bush on teleprompter, marginally worse speaking off the cuff. His answers rambled to the point of sounding unitelligible.

Note: Obama answered 13 questions in one hour. In 1960 Kennedy - who we are told Obama is most like (or is that Lincoln) - responded to 30 in 40 mintues. Helps to know what you’re talking about, I guess. Instead of simply saying: “My treasury secretary speaks tomorrow…and he’ll be great!”

The reporters outshone Obama in their incompetence. A guy from the Huffington Post (really?) asked when and if Obama was going to hunt down and prosecute the criminal Bush and his cohorts (Obama actually responded as if that’s a possiblity, albeit a remote one). Helen Thomas actually said, ‘so-called terrorists’. Bitch. Some broad from Fortune read her question, seemingly at a 3rd grade level…the whole thing was embarrassing.

Last I checked the market was down about 100. Looks like the rest of the country was underwhelmed, as well. A good presser would have given a superficial, temporary bump in stocks.

Not this time. Maybe next time, Obama. Work on it. Oh, and lose Biden.

Speaking of those ‘reporters’, since when should they be pre-selected to ask nice and easy questions? Anyone else notice, that there were no questions from the Right or even any hard ones? Sad on these nitwits want to prosecute our soldiers but not the crim-aliens that are stealing our tax dollars.

What kills me much more than watching this lying socialist drone on is the people asking the questions at these things.

Wadaa ya gonna do about this, wadda ya gonna do about that on and on.

We have degenerated into a nation of whining sniveling dependent infants.

It’s absolutely nauseating.

[quote]ProwlCat wrote:
Wow. That’s all I can say about that presser. Obama was…underwhelming, at best. He’s better than Bush on teleprompter, marginally worse speaking off the cuff. His answers rambled to the point of sounding unitelligible.

Note: Obama answered 13 questions in one hour. In 1960 Kennedy - who we are told Obama is most like (or is that Lincoln) - responded to 30 in 40 mintues. Helps to know what you’re talking about, I guess. Instead of simply saying: “My treasury secretary speaks tomorrow…and he’ll be great!”

The reporters outshone Obama in their incompetence. A guy from the Huffington Post (really?) asked when and if Obama was going to hunt down and prosecute the criminal Bush and his cohorts (Obama actually responded as if that’s a possiblity, albeit a remote one).

Helen Thomas actually said, ‘so-called terrorists’. Bitch. Some broad from Fortune read her question, seemingly at a 3rd grade level…the whole thing was embarrassing.

Last I checked the market was down about 100. Looks like the rest of the country was underwhelmed, as well. A good presser would have given a superficial, temporary bump in stocks.

Not this time. Maybe next time, Obama. Work on it. Oh, and lose Biden. [/quote]

We should fly leaflets with Helen Thomas’s into the terrorist regions with the caption, “If you don’t give up, we’re sending her.” She’ll ugly them into submission.

Honestly, they should have at least given Obama a barf bucket before being forced to look at her and answer her idiotic question. I am pro-life and all, but I can’t say I’ll give a shit when that old whore keels over.

[quote]Dr_Razor wrote:
Speaking of those ‘reporters’, since when should they be pre-selected to ask nice and easy questions? Anyone else notice, that there were no questions from the Right or even any hard ones? Sad on these nitwits want to prosecute our soldiers but not the crim-aliens that are stealing our tax dollars.[/quote]

How about that dickwad asking about A-Rod. If that cocksucker worked for my paper, I’d fire him outright. What an idiot, A-Rod did 'roids, who really gives a fuck.
I would like to be president just to tell that cumdrinker what an idiotic question that was and to get the fuck out of the press room before I have him removed…That would be the fun part about being the president.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
What kills me much more than watching this lying socialist drone on is the people asking the questions at these things.

Wadaa ya gonna do about this, wadda ya gonna do about that on and on.

We have degenerated into a nation of whining sniveling dependent infants.

It’s absolutely nauseating.[/quote]

I agree. What is the government going to do about X or Y. Never questioning the ethics of the government spending stolen money on private issues.

My toilet is clogged, other people should pay to have it unclogged. It’s way to hard and icky for me to do it myself and i just bought a big screen so I can’t afford it.

The only thing the government should do in the job marked is to make sure there is a road so you can get yourself to work.

I swear politicians use tax dollars to wipe their asses after they shit on the constitution.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

I swear politicians use tax dollars to wipe their asses after they shit on the constitution.[/quote]

LOL! quote of the day!

[quote]pat wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:

I swear politicians use tax dollars to wipe their asses after they shit on the constitution.

LOL! quote of the decade![/quote]

Fixed that for ya :wink:

Well the markets reacted well to the fuckulus being passed by the senate.