I remain interested in #1, because costs are not static, and will get worse - supply and demand inevitably commands that more health consumers will be chasing more health care services, and there is no provision in the current health care plan that deals with this unavoidable problem.
Take a snapshot of our aggregate health “profile”, for example - a generally unhealthy society that is entirely too dependent on consuming acute health care resources to get healthier. While I don’t support a public plan for a number of reasons, I am perfectly willing to admit I would “less against it” in the right circumstances - a society that was generally healthy and did as much as it could independently to get and remain healthy before dipping into health care resources.
As in, a society that generally ate right, exercised, had low bad habits, and treated the health care system as a “last resort” to getting healthy would be a better candidate for a public health care program. We don’t have that.
As for #2, I have problems with this as well, because it can’t be untangled from #1 - as costs inevitably skyrocket, the quality and availability of care will go down - setting aside the quite obvious problem noted commonly that a health care system run by the equivalent of the DMV would be a disaster.[/quote]
I think it is very one sided to see rising costs necessarily as a bad thing.
As a society gets richer it makes sense to spend more on health. After all, if you already have a house and a car, why not spend money to live as many years with the best health money can buy?
This is not a problem for the private sector where every new customer is welcome, this is a problem for a publicly run health care though.
Germany for example is proud that 20-25 % of Germanys jobs depend on the production of cars and yet would go apeshit when health related services were around the same percentage.
The point of all this is, seeing rising costs as a negative already means conceding the statists point that they indeed are a problem and that something needs to be done about it, whereas we would see it as a plus if any other private sector was able to grow so significantly even in a shrinking economy.