[quote]Alpha F wrote:
Is anybody here going to buy a gun, or hastening their gun purchases for fear or the upcoming executive orders designed to punish law abiding citizens?
My husband and I have purchased a shotgun, a rifle and an HK P30L V1 with safety 40 S&W.
On your comment about only one shot being needed, my husband has a good friend who is an ER physician and who has had many cases of criminals being shot repeatedly by 357 Magnums, having needed many shots to take them down. He says that it seems that the hardened criminal type may be stopped only by loss of blood pressure, the spine being severed, or the brain being destroyed. The gun magazines suggest an overwhelming magic shock effect, but the magnum revolver rounds just aren’t in the category of high powered rifle rounds which actually can have that effect.
This is also why Larry Correia and a bunch of others are against magazine round limits on legislation…blood loss stops the vast majority of attackers, not the “shock” effect.
And yes. I don’t think I even have the budget to buy one, but I’m going to anyway. It’s just a crying shame I can’t take out a loan for the stuff I REALLY want (i.e. the things that are going to certainly be banned…like custom outfitted AR’s). Best I can do is try to make sure I have a lot of high cap magazines before they get struck down. Incidentally Correia has an interesting fact about those…
[quote]"First off, why do gun owners want magazines that hold more rounds? Because sometimes you miss. Because usuallyâ??contrary to the moviesâ??you have to hit an opponent multiple times in order to make them stop. Because sometimes you may have multiple assailants. We donâ??t have more rounds in the magazine so we can shoot more, we have more rounds in the magazine so we are forced to manipulate our gun less if we have to shoot more.
The last assault weapons ban capped capacities at ten rounds. You quickly realize ten rounds sucks when you take a wound ballistics class like I have and go over case after case after case after case of enraged, drug addled, prison hardened, perpetrators who soaked up five, seven, nine, even fifteen bullets and still walked under their own power to the ambulance. That isnâ??t uncommon at all. Legally, you can shoot them until they cease to be a threat, and keep in mind that what normally causes a person to stop is loss of blood pressure, so I used to tell my students that anybody worth shooting once was worth shooting five or seven times. You shoot them until they leave you alone.
Also, youâ??re going to miss. It is going to happen. If you can shoot pretty little groups at the range, those groups are going to expand dramatically under the stress and adrenalin. The more you train, the better you will do, but you can still may miss, or the bad guy may end up hiding behind something which your bullets donâ??t penetrate. Nobody has ever survived a gunfight and then said afterwards, â??Darn, I wish I hadnâ??t brought all that extra ammo.â??
So having more rounds in the gun is a good thing for self-defense use.'[/quote]