Everytime I see discussion on Obama from Liberals they call him centrist rather then Liberal and Repubs call him Ultra Leftist. There obviously is some discrepancy here because he can't be both.
So what gives is this just due to the partisanship? Liberal's arnt exactly happy about Obama so they try to differentiate from him by calling him Centrist. And Repubs call him Ultra Leftist because well by labeling the opposition as "extreme" they try to dissuade people from voting for him.
Ultra-leftism refers specifically to a form of Anti-Leninist left-communism defined in particular by its opposition to Bolshevik Statism.
So: Ultra-leftists are pseudo-anarchic Marxists opposed to state authority. Obama holds the highest political office in a country defined in large part by its powerful market economy. Therefore, Obama is not ultra leftist.
And the notion that he "does believe in elements of communism" is nothing more than ridiculous partisan hyperventilation. Real criticism is undermined entirely when people throw propagandized hyperbolic bullshit like this around.
He believes one of the government's jobs is the redistribution of wealth.
His stance that not increasing taxes is a "cost" to the government also denotes his belief that all money belongs first to the government and that what the government "allows" the private market to keep is expenditure. Though many dems and tv personalities express this same belief. The very basis for the question "how do we pay for tax cuts?" expresses fundamental communist assumptions of government ownership of all wealth by necessity.
And what he believes and wants to do and the state of the country and what he is able to do are 2 different things.
And sorry, I was using ultra leftism meaning only extremely left, not as a proper noun. I took the original thread to mean this because it makes more sense when comparing to a centrist. If we are discussing ultra-left in the sense of a specific brand of communism, I missed the mark.
Lastly, I'm in no way partisan. You may call me an ideologue if you wish, but the last thing I am is partisan.
Fair enough with regard to ultra-leftist as a subjective adjective rather than a proper noun.
I still maintain that Obama is in no way substantively similar to a Communist. Rhetoric aside, the president is in practicality a left-leaning proponent of capitalism. We could argue over taxation's merits and drawbacks and over rates which we deem to be specifically appropriate, and in that argument I suspect that you would fall to the right of Obama and I, and us to the left of you.
But we would all of us be to one extent or another capitalists, united in opposition to the fundamental tenets of Communism (the abolition of private property, the nationalization of the means of production, and in its darker manifestations: council authoritarianism, class warfare, Stalinism and Maoism) which both define it and make it such a terrible idea.
The healthcare bill was the single worst piece of legislature passed by the US Gov. (this is why I* would call him a leftist)
Other than that Obama has been very similar to Bush (I'm not talking about what is said, I'm talking about what has been done!). National security is my #1 issue, and we have been safe the whole time Barry has been in the white house so I'm fine with it for now.
Whether or not he had much to do with it, I'm all for the pat-downs that they do at the airport....you don't like it? THEN DON'T FLY! IT'S NOT A RIGHT TO FLY IT'S A PRIVELAGE!
LOL. Even in more modern times, I would have gone with SS and Medicare. Or the creation of the federal reserve. Or the prescription drug act. Or Japanese interment. Or the patriot act... The entire war on drugs..
Not sure of his Senate record but he is The President now and if one takes a look at his nominies for political positions which surround him it is easy to conclude those "leftest days" are far behind him.
BTW, what leftest ideas and bills did he support in his "leftest days?"