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Obama Snubs the Brits

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#21

Typically the UK has formed the bridge between Europe and the US that’s no longer going to happen.

The UK has it’s own problems which need to be sorted out before we even start worrying about stupidities such as being snubbed by Obama. The government (tax payer) has just taken a controlling interesting in a 1 trillion mega bank and nationalised 3 other banks without any idea of their exposure to toxic debt… the taxpayer is now responsible. If someone doesn’t put Brown out of his misery the UK’s economy will be destroyed for decades to come. To quote Jeremy Clarkson on Gordon Brown “he is a one eyed, Scottish, idiot who is ruining our economy”.

#22

Is there anywhere in the world where people like their prime minister/president?

#23

hong kong. yay capitalism.

#24

I’ve gotta admit, while I’m not with Spartan here, I’ve no love for GB. They are a subject people and I’ve no use for them. The place is an Orwellian joke. The only difference is that the Brits actually know it and refuse to do anything about it. Hell in some cases they joke about it.

I don’t know enough about Churchill to make any claims there though. Either way, Obama needs to get his act together. If he can’t handle the job he needs to step down. Seeing as that isn’t going to happen and we’re stuck with this scoundrel I suggest we all pitch in and get him a case of Spike.

mike

#25

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
SpartanX wrote:
Honestly tho, refresh me…why is England important again?

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YTUzZTA0MGQ3OWQwYzcyNGNlODJkNWJkMzJhMDc0NDg= [/quote]

Good link. His point of view really shoots down the Obama viewpoint. And its not like we’ve stood together through a bloody century or so.

#26

[quote]JamFly wrote:

Typically the UK has formed the bridge between Europe and the US that’s no longer going to happen.

The UK has it’s own problems which need to be sorted out before we even start worrying about stupidities such as being snubbed by Obama. The government (tax payer) has just taken a controlling interesting in a 1 trillion mega bank and nationalised 3 other banks without any idea of their exposure to toxic debt… the taxpayer is now responsible. If someone doesn’t put Brown out of his misery the UK’s economy will be destroyed for decades to come. To quote Jeremy Clarkson on Gordon Brown “he is a one eyed, Scottish, idiot who is ruining our economy”.[/quote]

The BNP (British National Party for those who don’t know) will soon be running the show.

"Mission Statement

The British National Party exists to secure a future for the indigenous peoples of these islands in the North Atlantic which have been our homeland for millennia.

We use the term indigenous to describe the people whose ancestors were the earliest settlers here after the last great Ice Age and which have been complemented by the historic migrations from mainland Europe."

#27

“Churchill was First Lord of the Admiralty at the start of World War I, but was obliged to leave the war cabinet after the disastrous Battle of Gallipoli. He attempted to obtain a commission as a brigade commander, but settled for command of a battalion. After spending some time with the Grenadier Guards he was appointed Lieutenant-Colonel, commanding the 6th Battalion, Royal Scots Fusiliers, on 1 January 1916. Correspondence with his wife shows that his intent in taking up active service was to rehabilitate his reputation, but this was balanced by the serious risk of being killed. As a commander he continued to exhibit the reckless daring which had been a hallmark of all his military actions, although he disapproved strongly of the mass slaughter involved in many western front actions”

Could have stayed in a high position eating cake but went to the battle instead. From his letters, he suffered a lot of angst over Gal. … so not a perfect man, but at least a man.

Yeah Britain is a mess. Easy to see why people would want to start anew with USA. But now hundreds of years later USA is a bit of a mess. Time to start again?

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#29

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
JamFly wrote:

Typically the UK has formed the bridge between Europe and the US that’s no longer going to happen.

The UK has it’s own problems which need to be sorted out before we even start worrying about stupidities such as being snubbed by Obama. The government (tax payer) has just taken a controlling interesting in a 1 trillion mega bank and nationalised 3 other banks without any idea of their exposure to toxic debt… the taxpayer is now responsible. If someone doesn’t put Brown out of his misery the UK’s economy will be destroyed for decades to come. To quote Jeremy Clarkson on Gordon Brown “he is a one eyed, Scottish, idiot who is ruining our economy”.

The BNP (British National Party for those who don’t know) will soon be running the show.

"Mission Statement

The British National Party exists to secure a future for the indigenous peoples of these islands in the North Atlantic which have been our homeland for millennia.

We use the term indigenous to describe the people whose ancestors were the earliest settlers here after the last great Ice Age and which have been complemented by the historic migrations from mainland Europe."

[/quote]

HH seriously you are barking up the wrong tree with the BNP, they are a bunch of thugs and idiots they are not a serious party - even though they will make progress due to the rise nationalism brough on by the economic crisis.

Personally I will not vote for the Conservatives due to their stance on certain key issues and probably will vote UKIP - which should have the effect (if enough people vote for them) of sending the Conservatives a message on getting back to certain values.

#30

[quote]JamFly wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
JamFly wrote:

Typically the UK has formed the bridge between Europe and the US that’s no longer going to happen.

The UK has it’s own problems which need to be sorted out before we even start worrying about stupidities such as being snubbed by Obama. The government (tax payer) has just taken a controlling interesting in a 1 trillion mega bank and nationalised 3 other banks without any idea of their exposure to toxic debt… the taxpayer is now responsible. If someone doesn’t put Brown out of his misery the UK’s economy will be destroyed for decades to come. To quote Jeremy Clarkson on Gordon Brown “he is a one eyed, Scottish, idiot who is ruining our economy”.

The BNP (British National Party for those who don’t know) will soon be running the show.

"Mission Statement

The British National Party exists to secure a future for the indigenous peoples of these islands in the North Atlantic which have been our homeland for millennia.

We use the term indigenous to describe the people whose ancestors were the earliest settlers here after the last great Ice Age and which have been complemented by the historic migrations from mainland Europe."

HH seriously you are barking up the wrong tree with the BNP, they are a bunch of thugs and idiots they are not a serious party - even though they will make progress due to the rise nationalism brough on by the economic crisis.

Personally I will not vote for the Conservatives due to their stance on certain key issues and probably will vote UKIP - which should have the effect (if enough people vote for them) of sending the Conservatives a message on getting back to certain values.[/quote]

JamFly, how is it in bonnie Scotland fella?

I wouldn’t write the BNP off so easy mate, I think their gonna get more votes than people think when we eventually get the next election. My work takes me across Wales and over the border to South England and you can feel that theres a certain resentment growing aongst people who are really pissed off at the way the countries changing and want to get some of the old fashioned values back.

I know what your saying though about who too actually vote for. It seems to be picking the best of a bad bunch!

#31

[quote]Taffy_Duck wrote:
JamFly wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
JamFly wrote:

Typically the UK has formed the bridge between Europe and the US that’s no longer going to happen.

The UK has it’s own problems which need to be sorted out before we even start worrying about stupidities such as being snubbed by Obama. The government (tax payer) has just taken a controlling interesting in a 1 trillion mega bank and nationalised 3 other banks without any idea of their exposure to toxic debt… the taxpayer is now responsible. If someone doesn’t put Brown out of his misery the UK’s economy will be destroyed for decades to come. To quote Jeremy Clarkson on Gordon Brown “he is a one eyed, Scottish, idiot who is ruining our economy”.

The BNP (British National Party for those who don’t know) will soon be running the show.

"Mission Statement

The British National Party exists to secure a future for the indigenous peoples of these islands in the North Atlantic which have been our homeland for millennia.

We use the term indigenous to describe the people whose ancestors were the earliest settlers here after the last great Ice Age and which have been complemented by the historic migrations from mainland Europe."

HH seriously you are barking up the wrong tree with the BNP, they are a bunch of thugs and idiots they are not a serious party - even though they will make progress due to the rise nationalism brough on by the economic crisis.

Personally I will not vote for the Conservatives due to their stance on certain key issues and probably will vote UKIP - which should have the effect (if enough people vote for them) of sending the Conservatives a message on getting back to certain values.

JamFly, how is it in bonnie Scotland fella?

I wouldn’t write the BNP off so easy mate, I think their gonna get more votes than people think when we eventually get the next election. My work takes me across Wales and over the border to South England and you can feel that theres a certain resentment growing aongst people who are really pissed off at the way the countries changing and want to get some of the old fashioned values back.

I know what your saying though about who too actually vote for. It seems to be picking the best of a bad bunch!
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Taffy - I agree the Nationalistic sentiment is growing and people are getting pissed, but I believe it’s for the wrong resons - basically economic. I do think we need a Nationalist party but that’s not the BNP… they are basically full of the ‘wrong’ kind of nationalist. But as I said above they are gaining all the time and hopefully the Conservatives will get the message!

#32

[quote]SpartanX wrote:
My post was a definite winner.

Honestly tho, refresh me…why is Britain important again? Have they even given Egypt and Greece back their cultural artifacts yet?

Isn’t this the same country that is afraid of 10% of their pop, and appease them at the expense of the rest?

Don’t they have an elite oligarchy which is borne of a higher caste than the rest of the citizenry, and one of them serves as sovereign and head of state?

I don’t really see what is unique, special or admiral about the UK, and really I mean, England in particular, I’m sure the rest of the isles and home nations would opt out of being geographically located next to them if they could.

BTW, Churchill’s Mother descended from the same Jewish-Anglo aristocracy, that created the economic conditions and manipulated the world press to start WW2 in the first place. The same jackasses who reign supreme in our country as well.

Someone remind why the fat man in the little coat known as Churchill is a hero again? A man who never worked a hard day in his life, and just made grandiose claims and speeches to cowardly generals who surrendered citizens and territories anyways. Why is he special? He is like the British Rush Limbaugh, at least Rush worked to his position, and we Americans are smart enough not to put him in power.[/quote]

Tell you what, when the USA gives Texas, California, Nevada etc back to Mexico then the Brits will open discussions with the bubbles on the correct home for the Elgin Marbles.

As for the Queen, she is there to bring in the tourists, mainly dumb septics looking for some culture because they were brought up in a culture vacuum.

#33

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

mainly dumb septics looking for some culture because they were brought up in a culture vacuum.[/quote]

Wow, you a really one ignorant prick, why don’t you do us all a favour and go and drink a bucket of bleach.

#34

[quote]aussie486 wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:

mainly dumb septics looking for some culture because they were brought up in a culture vacuum.

Wow, you a really one ignorant prick, why don’t you do us all a favour and go and drink a bucket of bleach.

[/quote]

Yeah, like the average Brit is in a museum all day. I like this inferior culture attitude. You have Dickens, we have Frost.

Name for me a great cultural achievement of Great Britain other than Shepherd’s Pie

#35

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

As for the Queen, she is there to bring in the tourists, mainly dumb septics looking for some culture because they were brought up in a culture vacuum.[/quote]

Pretty childish post really.

#36

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

As for the Queen, she is there to bring in the tourists, mainly dumb septics looking for some culture because they were brought up in a culture vacuum.[/quote]

We’re just looking for a little history. You’ve got that there in Britain, I hear tell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4IS4OwOkYg

#37

[quote]tom63 wrote:

Name for me a great cultural achievement of Great Britain other than Shepherd’s Pie
[/quote]

Well, let’s see now. Here’s a short list:

The steam engine;
The steam locomotive;
The internal combustion engine;
The jet engine;
The universal joint;
The Land Rover;
The electric motor;
The submarine;
The periscope;
The torpedo;
The depth charge;
Portland cement;
The fax machine;
The gas mask;
The tin can;
The light bulb (Edison only perfected it);
Coordinated assault using armored vehicles, light infantry and fighter-bomber aircraft (Germany only perfected it);
The periodic table of elements;
Penicillin;
Monty Python;
Benny Hill;
Rubber bands;
Thermos containers;
Toilet paper;
The sewing machine;
The vacuum cleaner;
The lawn mower;
The Bessemer process for producing steel;
Television;
Viagra;
The World Wide Web (without which, we wouldn’t be having this conversation);
And finally, the world’s greatest cultural achievement ever, conceived by a bunch of tax-evading, gun-owning, freedom-loving Englishmen: the United States of America.

#38

[quote]
The World Wide Web (without which, we wouldn’t be having this conversation);
And finally, the world’s greatest cultural achievement ever, conceived by a bunch of tax-evading, gun-owning, freedom-loving Englishmen: the United States of America.[/quote]

Vint Cerf isn’t British, ARPANET wasn’t British, Al Gore isn’t British :p.

I don’t really think you can claim a bunch of dutchy, huguenot, english, scots, and irish rebels who hated your fucking tyranny and pathetic King so much, that they butchered your occupying army and chased you back to your foggy island an achievement.

The USA has never been an ethnically ‘English’ colony, while we may speak a language derived from yours, English blood at its’ greatest penetration was never at 50% in our country, and now is less than 10%. Americans are a far greater extent German, Irish, African and Beaner stock, than English.

This brother and cousin bullshit we do with your island isn’t amusing to me. Go talk to Canada, Australia and NZ about that, the USA isn’t your brother nation.

#39

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#40

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
tom63 wrote:

Name for me a great cultural achievement of Great Britain other than Shepherd’s Pie

Well, let’s see now. Here’s a short list:

The steam engine;
The steam locomotive;
The internal combustion engine;
The jet engine;
The universal joint;
The Land Rover;
The electric motor;
The submarine;
The periscope;
The torpedo;
The depth charge;
Portland cement;
The fax machine;
The gas mask;
The tin can;
The light bulb (Edison only perfected it);
Coordinated assault using armored vehicles, light infantry and fighter-bomber aircraft (Germany only perfected it);
The periodic table of elements;
Penicillin;
Monty Python;
Benny Hill;
Rubber bands;
Thermos containers;
Toilet paper;
The sewing machine;
The vacuum cleaner;
The lawn mower;
The Bessemer process for producing steel;
Television;
Viagra;
The World Wide Web (without which, we wouldn’t be having this conversation);
And finally, the world’s greatest cultural achievement ever, conceived by a bunch of tax-evading, gun-owning, freedom-loving Englishmen: the United States of America.[/quote]

you forgot one.