'Obama Scrawny,' Arnold Says

[quote]tedro wrote:
That picture is over 10 year olds and was taken shortly after his aortic valve replacement.[/quote]

I stood near him at the new Ritz here in Boston about 5 years ago. Given the way he so obviously filled out his suit with an impressive musculature, there’s no way he was still sporting the body in that photo above (assuming it’s real, not doctored, etc.)

[quote]Jack_Dempsey wrote:
Brayton wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Irrelevant!

So true. But also so funny.

Have we ever had an incredibly fit president? No Putin-esque black belt wielding, jaguar strangling former American Presidents spring to mind.

Teddy Roosevelt was America’s first brown belt in judo.

He also was a boxing champ at Harvard and sparred with John L. Sullivan at the White House.

As far as the jaguar strangling, his reputation as a fearless adventurer probably exceeds the rest of the presidents combined.

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Thanks for the post. That’s awesome.

a republican supporting a republican

holy shit stop the presses

[quote]Black Greg wrote:
I don’t think arnold is one to talk these days… homie looks like ass on a stick[/quote]

You suck. Really, really hard. Those pics of Arnold have been put into context over a thousand times on this site. And even if they were not, he still has plenty of pics from the 60s through 80s where he was ONE OF THE BIGGEST MOTHERFUCKERS ON THE PLANET.

No matter what, though, Obama remains a scrawny, radical socialist.

Do you even have a job?

LOL@ radical socialist.

I suppose if he uses condoms he’s a mass murderer as well?

[quote]pushharder wrote:
The best political quote from the Oak was, “John McCain has spent more time serving his country in Hanoi then Barack Obama has in the U.S. Senate”.

Priceless.[/quote]

Hardly. It’s just meaningless rhetoric.

Who or what was McCain “serving” when he was sitting inside his prison cell?

I’ll tell you: Absolutely nobody.

To serve implies that a service is being actively rendered. This cannot occur when your ass is locked up in a cell.

And since McCain reportedly had prostitutes delivered to him, he may not have had such a rough time at all.

These types of analogies are no better than penis length competitions; in fact, that’s what they are, at the heart of it. They’re positively retarded.

Judge people on their merits. Not on their plastic credentials or the amount of time they’ve been alive.

Nominal Prospect, thank you for standing up.

There are quite a few guys here who believe just that, black can be white, night is day etc. The more outrageous the claim the better.

You’re a hero just for getting your ass tortured in a dirty cell.

Dying in a foreign land, competely without sense or higher reason means serving your country and will make your parents proud.

A fictional person died thousands of years ago “for” your sins.


the list goes on and on
See the pattern?

[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Nominal Prospect, thank you for standing up.

There are quite a few guys here who believe just that, black can be white, night is day etc. The more outrageous the claim the better.

You’re a hero just for getting your ass tortured in a dirty cell.

Dying in a foreign land, competely without sense or higher reason means serving your country and will make your parents proud.

A fictional person died thousands of years ago “for” your sins.


the list goes on and on
See the pattern?

[/quote]

Your ignorance is staggering.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Nominal Prospect, thank you for standing up.

There are quite a few guys here who believe just that, black can be white, night is day etc. The more outrageous the claim the better.

You’re a hero just for getting your ass tortured in a dirty cell.

Dying in a foreign land, competely without sense or higher reason means serving your country and will make your parents proud.

A fictional person died thousands of years ago “for” your sins.


the list goes on and on
See the pattern?

Your ignorance is staggering.

They’re having a socialist tea party, Zap. A leninist and a fascist. They are simply adorable trying to hold their pinkies just right while gripping their cups and playing footsie under the table, aren’t they?[/quote]

Oh please explain how NOT believing that bombing the Vietnamese to freedom, piece and prosperity was a heroic move is “fascist” or “leninist”.

Please also explain what constitutes the principle difference between a paid killer working for the government and a hitman working for the mob.

You know, thinking it is somehow different, because you wear a uniform is, what I hear is the cardinal sin of liberalism, moral relativism.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
orion wrote:
pushharder wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Nominal Prospect, thank you for standing up.

There are quite a few guys here who believe just that, black can be white, night is day etc. The more outrageous the claim the better.

You’re a hero just for getting your ass tortured in a dirty cell.

Dying in a foreign land, competely without sense or higher reason means serving your country and will make your parents proud.

A fictional person died thousands of years ago “for” your sins.


the list goes on and on
See the pattern?

Your ignorance is staggering.

They’re having a socialist tea party, Zap. A leninist and a fascist. They are simply adorable trying to hold their pinkies just right while gripping their cups and playing footsie under the table, aren’t they?

Oh please explain how NOT believing that bombing the Vietnamese to freedom, piece and prosperity was a heroic move is “fascist” or “leninist”.

Please also explain what constitutes the principle difference between a paid killer working for the government and a hitman working for the mob.

You know, thinking it is somehow different, because you wear a uniform is, what I hear is the cardinal sin of liberalism, moral relativism.

There’s room for three at their table. Remember to slip off your shoes; the footsie feels so much better, I’d have to guess.[/quote]

Wow, your ability to reason is underwhelming.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Nominal Prospect, thank you for standing up.

There are quite a few guys here who believe just that, black can be white, night is day etc. The more outrageous the claim the better.

You’re a hero just for getting your ass tortured in a dirty cell.

Dying in a foreign land, competely without sense or higher reason means serving your country and will make your parents proud.

A fictional person died thousands of years ago “for” your sins.


the list goes on and on
See the pattern?

Your ignorance is staggering.

They’re having a socialist tea party, Zap. A leninist and a fascist. They are simply adorable trying to hold their pinkies just right while gripping their cups and playing footsie under the table, aren’t they?[/quote]

Wrong. You are looking at the issue emotionally, whereas I’m looking at it rationally.

Statements such as, “John McCain has spent more time serving his country in Hanoi then Barack Obama has in the U.S. Senate”, with the attached implication of McCain being a better candidate than Obama, are naked emotional appeals.

One could hardly find a better example of how politicians attempt to influence the hearts and minds of the ignorant masses.

What is a rational person to make of such a statement? That should Barack Obama voluntarily spend some time in prison to “even the score?” A moment’s reflection should be enough to reveal the idiocy inherent to this line of thinking.

I’ve always believed that man’s tendency to attach reverential significance to certain groups merely for the circumstances of their birth is one of his greatest follies.

For instance, if you were born in this country in the 1920’s, odds are high that you played a role in the global conflict known as World War II. Some people seem to think that any member of this, so-called, “Greatest Generation”, is a hero merely due to having been born at that time.

They don’t express their admiration in those terms, but that’s what it boils down to, at the core.

The above is NOT what true heroism is about. Heroism has nothing to do with blind luck or fate, but the opposite, in fact.

The “greatest generation” no doubt had its share of cowards, pedophiles, swindlers, traitors, liars, and criminals…just the same as every other generation. To believe otherwise is to abandon all reason in favor of fervent mythology.

There are true heroes and then there are “public heroes”. The latter are far more common while the former are usually maligned, mistreated and misunderstood by their contemporaries. Their extraordinary achievements are, far more often than not, left to be discovered by future generations.

Public Heroes must be cheap because they need to be conjured at will to satisfy the emotional whims of the vulgar masses. This has been true throughout the ages. The movie Gladiator comes to mind.

Awards like the Purple Heart are given out so non-discriminately that they have lost all distinction. I shake my head in disgust when I read about the supposed “heroic deeds” of recipients of such awards.

The real test of McCain’s achievements is whether anyone will still be talking about them after he and the remainder of his generation have died out.

The answer is, of course, no. He’s a completely unremarkable man in the greater context of history. For as long as there has been war, there have been - and will continue to be - prisoners of war.

Nor is there anything noteworthy about the nature of his ordeal - the concept torture is hardly new to the history books. In the final analysis, his “story” and others like it will be completely irrelevant once the emotional strings that tie him to members of his own generation have been severed by the hand of time.

There is the age old question: To be well known and loved in life, only to be forgotten in death…or the opposite?

John McCain choose to make a personal sacrifice for a cause. This action cannot be considered valiant because it is so commonplace. For his sake, I hope he thought it was worth it. For better or worse, everyone has their own cause. You only have one life to give away, so you’d better choose well.

Even in darkest Africa, one must assume that each village of primitives carries with it its own traditions, rites and heroes. The area encompassing John McCain’s “village” is far larger than that of any an African tribesman, but each of them will be irrelevant 150 years from now.

Leaving a mark on posterity often requires one to renounce the petty squabbles of his contemporaries, to rebel against the “Tyranny of the Living”.

And so, that is why only dead men can be called saints.

The study of history is regarded as a cold, rigorous discipline because few people are able to get worked up over events which transpired long before they were born.

But what is the present if not history in the making?

Consequently, the same logical analysis must be applied to the present as to the past.

That is where most people fail. They are too weak to do it. It takes a lot of courage to give up one’s emotional attachments and embrace cold, harsh reality.

Lastly, you greatly diminish the credibility of your argument by labeling me a socialist. I’m the most conservative member of this board. My brand of conservatism pre-dates the French Revolution and embraces the old European aristocracy. I’m a self-avowed monarchist. One cannot possibly get any more conservative than that.

I believe in the natural order of things.

That is to say, I uphold the superiority of humans over beasts, men over women, adults over children, and the White, Northern European race over all others. These are the truths which I live by and hold to be self-evident.

All men have never been created equal. For this reason, lesser men must be ruled over by their superiors.

Society functions best when it is structured as a traditional, top-down hierarchy. The more rigidly defined the structure, and the greater the disparity between its top and bottom-most levels, the better.

The modern corporation has taken place of the medieval guild. All present-day corporations are internally structured according to the fascist template.

Fascism is the modern incarnation of feudalism, with the agrarian economy having been replaced by its industrial successor.

Those who praise the benefits of capitalism yet denounce institutional fascism are contradicting themselves. The same can be said for military supporters who call themselves advocates of democracy. The military is not in the least a democratic institution, it is patently fascist. Thus, fascism is the natural ideology of the business man and the soldier-citizen, alike.

Under the guild system, people tend to stick to their own kind and are kept aware, at all times, of their rank and status in society. This is in proper accordance with the laws of nature.

Modern democracy is a horrible transgression against the natural order and must inevitably collapse, as surely as the sun rises. When the masses aren’t kept in their place, chaos reigns. The idea that everyone who so desires can rise to become a member of the ruling class is entirely false, but once disseminated, it threatens to tear apart the fabric of a society.

Organized religion is a useful tool for maintaining social order. It puts an apparent limit on the power of rulers while giving hope to the downtrodden masses.

Those of us who hold such beliefs are unabashed elitists. We have no use for the dredges of society, the bottom feeders. We can’t imagine how any intelligent, well-bred individual could stroll through a modern city and reach a different conclusion.

I’m a conservative and this is what I believe.

Lol, from where?

I wrote every line.

[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
I believe in the natural order of things.

That is to say, I uphold the superiority of humans over beasts, men over women, adults over children, and the White, Northern European race over all others. These are the truths which I live by and hold to be self-evident.
[/quote]

You crack me up.

You must feel pretty stupid having who you do for your next president in 72 days and counting…

It’ll be funny when you elect Oprah in 2012!

[quote]Spry wrote:
Nominal Prospect wrote:
I believe in the natural order of things.

That is to say, I uphold the superiority of humans over beasts, men over women, adults over children, and the White, Northern European race over all others. These are the truths which I live by and hold to be self-evident.

You crack me up.

You must feel pretty stupid having who you do for your next president in 72 days and counting…

It’ll be funny when you elect Oprah in 2012![/quote]

Why should I feel stupid? It wasn’t my decision. It remains to be seen whether or not it will affect me at all. Things like 9/11, the WOT, and the recent bailout didn’t affect me, so there’s no reason to believe that I’ll be greatly affected by an Obama presidency.

Life goes on. There are people in this world who choose to pay no heed to politics, elections, media spectacles, market bubbles, and other brouhaha which has no direct impact on them. They go about their business quietly and make their own way in life, not subjugating their fortunes to the winds of fate.

Somewhere a True Believer is training to Kill you. He is training in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon. The True Believer is not concerned about how hard it is; he knows either he wins or dies. He does not go home at 17:00, he is home. He knows only The Cause.

I am a true believer in my own cause. Nothing else concerns me.

[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
I believe in the natural order of things.
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What does the “natural order of things” say about indiscriminate cooperation among the masses?

Why should people need to be controlled merely for the sake of controlling them if there is already an inherent structure in the division of labor?

I too am an elitist but because it only seem obvious that the dregs of society could never affect society in a positive way. No one sings the praises of the imbecile but everyone knows the name of the man who cured polio. The cream floats to the top and the sediment sinks to the bottom – thus ever all things go.

The natural order of things puts the elite on top without any manipulation – thus it is natural.

I always liked the Oak as a politician–personally I don’t care how “inappropriate” the girly men comment was, it was funny. Same with this one. Naked rhetoric? yes. But funny naked rhetoric? absolutely. Politics could use some more humor from the politicians themselves. Of course, I think most of the reason it’s funny to me is that it IS the Oak saying it. Otherwise it would probably ring disingenuous.