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Obama on Iran/Russia

“Obama begs Iran to give him back his toy plane,” revelled the semiofficial Fars News Agency.

Just a few hours earlier, Secretary Clinton asserted yet again that “we want to see the Iranians engage - we are not giving up on it.”

Obama turns the other cheek again and again:

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/12/16/charles-krauthammer-what-wont-obama-turn-the-other-cheek-to/

Eh, did this deserve it’s own thread? We have a whole thread dedicated to what should be done in Iran.

The article was typical Kraut.

This article is insanity.

Flat out, gone of the deep end, cuckoo.

Fucking stupid to ask. What country is going to return the spy plane being used against them?

Here’s a tip, don’t crash it and if you’re going to crash it then install a self destruct.

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Eh, did this deserve it’s own thread? We have a whole thread dedicated to what should be done in Iran.

The article was typical Kraut. [/quote]

Thread topic is really an assessment of Obama’s foreign policy in relation to Iran/Russia and how it may have contributed to some of the problems the U.S. is having as a result. Iran thread is about the problems - this thread about how they came about. But yes, I could have posted it in the other thread.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-will-give-missile-technology-to-russia/

A very good point he raises that I have thought about for a long time is where the debris from intercepted missiles would fall. Hitting them before they reach the upper atmosphere is the best solution. If a warhead burns up in the upper atmosphere it is going to disperse plutonium over a large area.

An important deterrence aspect of an anti missile system is not letting the other guy know exactly how good or bad it really is. It adds uncertainty to the other guys calculations. Plus if the other guy know what it’s strengths and weaknesses are it’s easier for him to develop counter measures.

Didn’t anyone in the Democratic party learn from Truman that wishful thinking with the Russians gets us burned.

The biggest flaw of Obama and his supporters is they don’t understand that the basics of human interaction are not the same from one group of people to another. Unfortunately he and his supporters have had it drilled into them since kindergarten that if you are nice to people they will be nice to you too. There is a serious lack of understanding of the real world.

With certain groups of people ie gangsters, you can be too friendly.