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Obama: Natural Born Citizen?

Interesting read http://www.obamacrimes.com/

[quote]Hog Ear wrote:
Interesting read http://www.obamacrimes.com/ [/quote]

I think the URL says it all.

Anyone born in Panama should run for president in Panama.

Oops, wrong candidate. Never mind, carry on.

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I too have wondered about this. It is so easy to fake a document, like with the Chinese gymnasts.

I personally would rather see a candidate with deep roots in our country be POTUS. “He that troubles his own house shall inherit the wind.” (Proverbs 11:29)

Philip Berg, the guy filing the lawsuit requesting the Obama be removed as a candidate, is an active democrat. Berg seems to be concerned about the damage this could do to his party. I’m sure the republicans would like for this to come out after Obama gets the nomination. Maybe Hilliary ain’t out of the game yet.

I’d much rather see a country where this kind of question didn’t need to come up because it’s citizens wouldn’t consider putting an enemy into it’s highest office or any of it’s lower offices like it has been for that matter. Does anybody think many Obama supporters would care if he were born on Mars?

He represents leftism and a weakening of our sovereignty, security and influence in the world. That’s all that matters. Unlike John Mccain, I question Barack Obama’s patriotism much more than his judgment. I think he’s knows exactly what he’s doing. After all he’s a citizen of the world, he said so himself. Time for the big bad US to be brought back into line with the rest of the world.

[quote]Hog Ear wrote:
Philip Berg, the guy filing the lawsuit requesting the Obama be removed as a candidate, is an active democrat. Berg seems to be concerned about the damage this could do to his party. I’m sure the republicans would like for this to come out after Obama gets the nomination. Maybe Hilliary ain’t out of the game yet. [/quote]

If it were to be proven that he was not born on US soil and therefore not eligible for the presidency that would be a history making event that would dwarf every other aspect of his already historic nomination and too delicious for words.

EDIT: Can you even imagine what would happen if it were to be proven after he was already in the Whitehouse. OMG!!! If it were further proven that he and or key players in the party also knew, the fallout would be galactic to say the least.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Hog Ear wrote:
Philip Berg, the guy filing the lawsuit requesting the Obama be removed as a candidate, is an active democrat. Berg seems to be concerned about the damage this could do to his party. I’m sure the republicans would like for this to come out after Obama gets the nomination. Maybe Hilliary ain’t out of the game yet.

If it were to be proven that he was not born on US soil and therefore not eligible for the presidency that would be a history making event that would dwarf every other aspect of his already historic nomination and too delicious for words.

EDIT: Can you even imagine what would happen if it were to be proven after he was already in the Whitehouse. OMG!!! If it were further proven that he and or key players in the party also knew, the fallout would be galactic to say the least.[/quote]

When Hillary was getting her 2nd wind I remember her camp saying something about Obama would have to pass a security clearance before he could be considered for VP. Did they know about this all along?

[quote]Hog Ear wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Hog Ear wrote:
Philip Berg, the guy filing the lawsuit requesting the Obama be removed as a candidate, is an active democrat. Berg seems to be concerned about the damage this could do to his party. I’m sure the republicans would like for this to come out after Obama gets the nomination. Maybe Hilliary ain’t out of the game yet.

If it were to be proven that he was not born on US soil and therefore not eligible for the presidency that would be a history making event that would dwarf every other aspect of his already historic nomination and too delicious for words.

EDIT: Can you even imagine what would happen if it were to be proven after he was already in the Whitehouse. OMG!!! If it were further proven that he and or key players in the party also knew, the fallout would be galactic to say the least.

When Hillary was getting her 2nd wind I remember her camp saying something about Obama would have to pass a security clearance before he could be considered for VP. Did they know about this all along?

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That’s right, it went over my head at the time, but you would think they would have played that card by now if they had it.

This guy is flat out dangerous on so many levels. This would be another layer in the fabric of deception, but without a doubt the most significant. If it came out before the election she would likely get the nomination by default, but the Dems would be murdered. The swing voters would create a loud sucking sound toward the Republican ticket though the Hillary supporters would be back onboard with a smile. On the other hand if it came out after the election I’m thinking Biden would be sworn in as president though I’d have to do some research to be sure.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I’d much rather see a country where this kind of question didn’t need to come up because it’s citizens wouldn’t consider putting an enemy into it’s highest office or any of it’s lower offices like it has been for that matter. Does anybody think many Obama supporters would care if he were born on Mars?
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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Hog Ear wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Hog Ear wrote:
Philip Berg, the guy filing the lawsuit requesting the Obama be removed as a candidate, is an active democrat. Berg seems to be concerned about the damage this could do to his party. I’m sure the republicans would like for this to come out after Obama gets the nomination. Maybe Hilliary ain’t out of the game yet.

If it were to be proven that he was not born on US soil and therefore not eligible for the presidency that would be a history making event that would dwarf every other aspect of his already historic nomination and too delicious for words.

EDIT: Can you even imagine what would happen if it were to be proven after he was already in the Whitehouse. OMG!!! If it were further proven that he and or key players in the party also knew, the fallout would be galactic to say the least.

When Hillary was getting her 2nd wind I remember her camp saying something about Obama would have to pass a security clearance before he could be considered for VP. Did they know about this all along?

That’s right, it went over my head at the time, but you would think they would have played that card by now if they had it.

This guy is flat out dangerous on so many levels. This would be another layer in the fabric of deception, but without a doubt the most significant. If it came out before the election she would likely get the nomination by default, but the Dems would be murdered. The swing voters would create a loud sucking sound toward the Republican ticket though the Hillary supporters would be back onboard with a smile. On the other hand if it came out after the election I’m thinking Biden would be sworn in as president though I’d have to do some research to be sure.[/quote]

I would get a laugh out of this should it come to fruition.

Way to kill the conspiracy theories. lol

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Hog Ear wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Hog Ear wrote:
Philip Berg, the guy filing the lawsuit requesting the Obama be removed as a candidate, is an active democrat. Berg seems to be concerned about the damage this could do to his party. I’m sure the republicans would like for this to come out after Obama gets the nomination. Maybe Hilliary ain’t out of the game yet.

If it were to be proven that he was not born on US soil and therefore not eligible for the presidency that would be a history making event that would dwarf every other aspect of his already historic nomination and too delicious for words.

EDIT: Can you even imagine what would happen if it were to be proven after he was already in the Whitehouse. OMG!!! If it were further proven that he and or key players in the party also knew, the fallout would be galactic to say the least.

When Hillary was getting her 2nd wind I remember her camp saying something about Obama would have to pass a security clearance before he could be considered for VP. Did they know about this all along?

That’s right, it went over my head at the time, but you would think they would have played that card by now if they had it.

This guy is flat out dangerous on so many levels. [/quote]

I’m not sure I get your extreme hatred for Obama. Yes, he’s probably the most leftists presidential nominee in a while. But the country’s drift in that direction is cultural: we’ve had “conservatives,” Republicans anyway, in power for basically two decades straight (Clinton was a Democrat but signed welfare reform and balanced budgets, far more pragmatic than liberal). And yet abortion is firmly entrenched, people don’t care about the Constitution, and socialized health care is desired by a plurality of Americans. The cultural trumps the political every time. Obama, if he even wins, is not going to have that much effect in moving the country in his direction.

If you’re worried about his foreign policy, anyone talking about lobbing missiles into Pakistan or allowing Georgia into NATO is only marginally less of a hawk than McCain, who borders on unhinged. We might be leaving Iraq a bit faster under Obama, but that’s about it. He buys into the stupid idea that pretty much any problem in the world is our problem.

I’m not voting for Obama, or McCain. Both options suck. But if Obama becomes president it’s not gonna be some huge switch to a socialist nanny-state. He’s not gonna take away your guns and all your money and turn this into Europe. We’re on our way there, and it’s as much the fault of the Rudy Giulianis and George Bushes of the world as it is the liberals. Obama is far less dangerous than hysteria about terrorism, the medicating of our children, nationalism, atheism, multiculturalism, and about a million other things. Everyone ought to take a deep breath.

[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Hog Ear wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Hog Ear wrote:
Philip Berg, the guy filing the lawsuit requesting the Obama be removed as a candidate, is an active democrat. Berg seems to be concerned about the damage this could do to his party. I’m sure the republicans would like for this to come out after Obama gets the nomination. Maybe Hilliary ain’t out of the game yet.

If it were to be proven that he was not born on US soil and therefore not eligible for the presidency that would be a history making event that would dwarf every other aspect of his already historic nomination and too delicious for words.

EDIT: Can you even imagine what would happen if it were to be proven after he was already in the Whitehouse. OMG!!! If it were further proven that he and or key players in the party also knew, the fallout would be galactic to say the least.

When Hillary was getting her 2nd wind I remember her camp saying something about Obama would have to pass a security clearance before he could be considered for VP. Did they know about this all along?

That’s right, it went over my head at the time, but you would think they would have played that card by now if they had it.

This guy is flat out dangerous on so many levels.

I’m not sure I get your extreme hatred for Obama. Yes, he’s probably the most leftists presidential nominee in a while. But the country’s drift in that direction is cultural: we’ve had “conservatives,” Republicans anyway, in power for basically two decades straight (Clinton was a Democrat but signed welfare reform and balanced budgets, far more pragmatic than liberal). And yet abortion is firmly entrenched, people don’t care about the Constitution, and socialized health care is desired by a plurality of Americans. The cultural trumps the political every time. Obama, if he even wins, is not going to have that much effect in moving the country in his direction.

If you’re worried about his foreign policy, anyone talking about lobbing missiles into Pakistan or allowing Georgia into NATO is only marginally less of a hawk than McCain, who borders on unhinged. We might be leaving Iraq a bit faster under Obama, but that’s about it. He buys into the stupid idea that pretty much any problem in the world is our problem.

I’m not voting for Obama, or McCain. Both options suck. But if Obama becomes president it’s not gonna be some huge switch to a socialist nanny-state. He’s not gonna take away your guns and all your money and turn this into Europe. We’re on our way there, and it’s as much the fault of the Rudy Giulianis and George Bushes of the world as it is the liberals. Obama is far less dangerous than hysteria about terrorism, the medicating of our children, nationalism, atheism, multiculturalism, and about a million other things. Everyone ought to take a deep breath.[/quote]

You are very naive and untruthful.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:

I’m not sure I get your extreme hatred for Obama. Yes, he’s probably the most leftists presidential nominee in a while. But the country’s drift in that direction is cultural: we’ve had “conservatives,” Republicans anyway, in power for basically two decades straight

[/quote]

More like 6 years out of the last decade. The Dems have had at least a share or total control the other 14.

We have jumped so far to left in the past 20 years we are talking about gay marriage and a million other things previously unheard of.

[quote]

If you’re worried about his foreign policy, anyone talking about lobbing missiles into Pakistan or allowing Georgia into NATO is only marginally less of a hawk than McCain, who borders on unhinged. We might be leaving Iraq a bit faster under Obama, but that’s about it. He buys into the stupid idea that pretty much any problem in the world is our problem.

I’m not voting for Obama, or McCain. Both options suck. But if Obama becomes president it’s not gonna be some huge switch to a socialist nanny-state. He’s not gonna take away your guns and all your money and turn this into Europe. We’re on our way there, and it’s as much the fault of the Rudy Giulianis and George Bushes of the world as it is the liberals. Obama is far less dangerous than hysteria about terrorism, the medicating of our children, nationalism, atheism, multiculturalism, and about a million other things. Everyone ought to take a deep breath.

You are very naive and untruthful.[/quote]

With a Democrat controlled Congress, what looks to be the most leftist president ever and the possibility of him filling a few USSC slots we are looking at the biggest move to the left ever in our nation’s history. (even moreso tha FDR) Socialized medicine is just one step.

You must know these things yet you pretend otherwise. Why?

[quote]Ren wrote:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/154599[/quote]

The fact that there are doubts and that his birthplace is in question at all, should raise doubts about the man. I think it takes several generations to become a solid citizen of ANY country.

His father was a Kenyan communist. Obama loved and worshipped his bio father. Where are BHO’s roots and loyalty?

Besides, we all know that MI-6 can fake any document…

;>

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:

More like 6 years out of the last decade. The Dems have had at least a share or total control the other 14.

We have jumped so far to left in the past 20 years we are talking about gay marriage and a million other things previously unheard of.

You are very naive and untruthful.

You must know these things yet you pretend otherwise. Why?[/quote]

Cut it down to save space on the thread, otherwise- Nice post. I need to learn more about politics from the last 20 years, a bit hard since I’ve only been around for 15 of them xD

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Ren wrote:

The fact that there are doubts and that his birthplace is in question at all, should raise doubts about the man. I think it takes several generations to become a solid citizen of ANY country.

His father was a Kenyan communist. Obama loved and worshipped his bio father. Where are BHO’s roots and loyalty?

Besides, we all know that MI-6 can fake any document…

;>

[/quote]

mi-6?