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Obama Ineligible to Hold Office of President under Constitution

Phil Berg, the attorney, explaining the case:

The court documents: http://news.justia.com/cases/feature�?�v04083/281573/

Phil Berg�??s personal site: http://obamacrimes.com/

Phil J. Berg filed an amended complaint today in Berg v. Obama.

Essentially, the argument is this:
* Senator Obama could put this whole issue to rest by providing an official “vault copy” birth certificate.
* Senator Obama has chosen not to do so.
* The defendants (other than Obama) have a responsibility to protect the integrity of the electoral system by properly vetting the qualifications of candidates, which they have failed to perform.
* Mr. Berg, other Americans, and our system of government are damaged by this failure.
* Senator Obama, who has collected $425,000,000 in campaign contributions, has perpetrated a fraud.

  1. Obama is a representative of the Democratic People. However, Obama must meet the Qualifications specified for the United States Office of the President, which he must be a �??natural born�?? citizen.

Additionally, Obama must be at least a �??naturalized�?? citizen to hold his Office of U.S. Senator for Illinois. Unfortunately, Obama is not a �??natural born�?? citizen, nor is he a �??naturalized�?? citizen.

Just to name one of the problems, Obama lost his U.S. citizenship when his mother married an Indonesian citizen, Lolo Soetoro who legally �??acknowledged�?? Obama as his son in Indonesia and/or �??adopted�?? Obama, which caused Obama to become a �??natural�?? Indonesian citizen.

Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro relocated herself and Obama to Indonesia wherein Obama�??s mother naturalized in Indonesia. This is proven by Obama�??s school record with the student�??s name as �??Barry Soetoro�??, Father�??s name: Lolo Soetoro, M.A., and Citizenship: Indonesia.

Oh my HELL!!!

Has the Liberal Press been SUPRESSING this?

This is just absolutely SCANDALOUS!

I KNEW there was something suspicious about this Arab Socialist/Marxist/Terrorist!

(I’m tired; 3 weeks until this election is WAY too long…)

Mufasa

obo1:

Just busting your chops a little on this one.

Who knows…maybe it was suppressed…maybe Obama is naturalized, maybe he isn’t…

The time to clarify this was when he applied to Harvard or for a Social Security card or something…

I really don’t know. But people having concerns about it as he became a viable Presidential candidate is just crazy to me.

Mufasa

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
obo1:

Just busting your chops a little on this one.

Who knows…maybe it was suppressed…maybe Obama is naturalized, maybe he isn’t…

The time to clarify this was when he applied to Harvard or for a Social Security card or something…

I really don’t know. But people having concerns about it as he became a viable Presidential candidate is just crazy to me.

Mufasa[/quote]

If it is crazy why doesn’t Obama clear up the controversy by providing the neccessary documentation?

Did see Obama’s school records? His nationality was listed as Indonesian and his religion was Islam.

[quote]obo1 wrote:
Just to name one of the problems, Obama lost his U.S. citizenship when his mother married an Indonesian citizen, Lolo Soetoro who legally �??acknowledged�?? Obama as his son in Indonesia and/or �??adopted�?? Obama, which caused Obama to become a �??natural�?? Indonesian citizen.
[/quote]

Mufasa, in all seriousness, is this part about losing your U.S. citizenship when your mother marries an Indonesian citizen true?

Because I could have sworn that during the DNC there was enough mentioning of his family for them to refute the marriage/relationships.

Im honestly curious, can anyone clear the law up on this?

[quote]Sifu wrote:
If it is crazy why doesn’t Obama clear up the controversy by providing the neccessary documentation?

Did see Obama’s school records? His nationality was listed as Indonesian and his religion was Islam.[/quote]

Not trying to be insulting or anything, but I’m still in school and I know that for test’s all they have you do is check a box listing your ethnicity. It wouldn’t be hard for a albino white person to check being African American. Or an African American to check Asian/Chinese or any combination of the races.

Not sure if that is what you mean though

  1. No; I have not seen his school records.

  2. Exactly WHO is covering this all up and WHY?

If a sitting President can’t cover-up his blow-job with an intern in the Oval Office…can someone PLEASE tell me how a junior Senator running for public office pulls off running for the highest office in the Nation when he isn’t even a citizen?

The conspiracy to cover it up and suppress it would not only have to be BROAD beyond all comprehension; and it would have to involve a LOT of both Liberal AND Conservative individuals.

Is the Liberal Press sending out some kind of mind-control beam through our TV’s?

This is one conspiracy I just can’t seem to grasp guys.

I’m open for enlightenment.

Mufasa

God damn! This forum is all about the conspiracy theories this weekend!!!

[quote]RebornTN wrote:
obo1 wrote:
Just to name one of the problems, Obama lost his U.S. citizenship when his mother married an Indonesian citizen, Lolo Soetoro who legally �??acknowledged�?? Obama as his son in Indonesia and/or �??adopted�?? Obama, which caused Obama to become a �??natural�?? Indonesian citizen.

Mufasa, in all seriousness, is this part about losing your U.S. citizenship when your mother marries an Indonesian citizen true?

Because I could have sworn that during the DNC there was enough mentioning of his family for them to refute the marriage/relationships.

Im honestly curious, can anyone clear the law up on this?[/quote]

No, this is absolutely untrue. I’ve many friends who have “foreign” wives/husbands. Simply being born in the US gives you a US citizenship. Simply having one parent who is a US cit (and properly filled out paperwork) makes you a US citizen.

Once a US citizen your mom cannot “give it up” (or at a minimum it’s near impossible to give up a child’s citizenship and no one ever would, especially not for an Indonesian citizenship).

Again, I know many US citizens, living abroad, married to foreigners, with children born abroad who are still US citizens.

In short this is a piece of xenophobic shit.

Geeezuzzzzzz When did all the racists finally come out of the closet? I had no idea that T-Nation was a hang out for such hardcore racists.

You racists. You should be ashamed of your racist selves. Go commit some hate crimes or something you damn nazis… Get off the internets with your hate speech and evil ways.

[quote]Mufasa wrote:

  1. No; I have not seen his school records.

  2. Exactly WHO is covering this all up and WHY?

If a sitting President can’t cover-up his blow-job with an intern in the Oval Office…can someone PLEASE tell me how a junior Senator running for public office pulls off running for the highest office in the Nation when he isn’t even a citizen?

The conspiracy to cover it up and suppress it would not only have to be BROAD beyond all comprehension; and it would have to involve a LOT of both Liberal AND Conservative individuals.

Is the Liberal Press sending out some kind of mind-control beam through our TV’s?

This is one conspiracy I just can’t seem to grasp guys.

I’m open for enlightenment.

Mufasa[/quote]

Well put.

[quote]RebornTN wrote:
obo1 wrote:
Just to name one of the problems, Obama lost his U.S. citizenship when his mother married an Indonesian citizen, Lolo Soetoro who legally �??acknowledged�?? Obama as his son in Indonesia and/or �??adopted�?? Obama, which caused Obama to become a �??natural�?? Indonesian citizen.

Mufasa, in all seriousness, is this part about losing your U.S. citizenship when your mother marries an Indonesian citizen true?

Because I could have sworn that during the DNC there was enough mentioning of his family for them to refute the marriage/relationships.

Im honestly curious, can anyone clear the law up on this?[/quote]

In the US you can apply for dual citizenship. Otherwise if in taking Indonesian citizenship he renounced his US citizenship Berg has a case.

[quote]RebornTN wrote:
Sifu wrote:
If it is crazy why doesn’t Obama clear up the controversy by providing the neccessary documentation?

Did see Obama’s school records? His nationality was listed as Indonesian and his religion was Islam.

Not trying to be insulting or anything, but I’m still in school and I know that for test’s all they have you do is check a box listing your ethnicity. It wouldn’t be hard for a albino white person to check being African American. Or an African American to check Asian/Chinese or any combination of the races.

Not sure if that is what you mean though[/quote]

Why don’t you take ten minutes and watch the video? Both his citizenship and religion were hand written on the document they presented.

[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Geeezuzzzzzz When did all the racists finally come out of the closet? I had no idea that T-Nation was a hang out for such hardcore racists.

You racists. You should be ashamed of your racist selves. Get off the internets with your and evil ways.[/quote]

I think Mufasa already nominated you, so I’ll just second it.

This thread is almost as bad as the “kenyan arabs” thread.

Any sort of skeptical evaluation of these conservative “revelations” about Obama makes skaz sad, so he builds a strawman in his backyard and attacks it with a baseball bat.

[quote]Mufasa wrote:

  1. No; I have not seen his school records.

  2. Exactly WHO is covering this all up and WHY?

If a sitting President can’t cover-up his blow-job with an intern in the Oval Office…can someone PLEASE tell me how a junior Senator running for public office pulls off running for the highest office in the Nation when he isn’t even a citizen?

The conspiracy to cover it up and suppress it would not only have to be BROAD beyond all comprehension; and it would have to involve a LOT of both Liberal AND Conservative individuals.

Is the Liberal Press sending out some kind of mind-control beam through our TV’s?

This is one conspiracy I just can’t seem to grasp guys.

I’m open for enlightenment.

Mufasa[/quote]

I tend to agree. In this day and age, nothing’s secret, which is why Princeton was unable to hide the contents of Michelle Obama’s thesis until after Nov 5, 2008 like they originally planned:

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
No, this is absolutely untrue. I’ve many friends who have “foreign” wives/husbands. Simply being born in the US gives you a US citizenship. Simply having one parent who is a US cit (and properly filled out paperwork) makes you a US citizen.

Once a US citizen your mom cannot “give it up” (or at a minimum it’s near impossible to give up a child’s citizenship and no one ever would, especially not for an Indonesian citizenship).

Again, I know many US citizens, living abroad, married to foreigners, with children born abroad who are still US citizens.

In short this is a piece of xenophobic shit. [/quote]

Thanks for the info.

[quote]Sifu wrote:
In the US you can apply for dual citizenship. Otherwise if in taking Indonesian citizenship he renounced his US citizenship Berg has a case. [/quote]

Also, thanks for clearing this up.

[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Geeezuzzzzzz When did all the racists finally come out of the closet? I had no idea that T-Nation was a hang out for such hardcore racists.

You racists. You should be ashamed of your racist selves. Go commit some hate crimes or something you damn nazis… Get off the internets with your hate speech and evil ways.[/quote]

Straw-man.

[quote]Mufasa wrote:

If a sitting President can’t cover-up his blow-job with an intern in the Oval Office…can someone PLEASE tell me how a junior Senator running for public office pulls off running for the highest office in the Nation when he isn’t even a citizen?

Mufasa[/quote]

Thanks Mufasa…I just spit my coffee out all over the keyboard on that one !!!

If anything… for all this horseshit…I am laughing a lot (SNL, this forum…the rallies…COMICAL).