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Obama: Clinton's Old Team

"But now, Obama has definitely changed his tune. As president-elect, he’s brought back the old Washington hacks, party regulars, and Clinton sycophants that he so frequently disparaged. Like Jimmy Carter, the last President who ran as an outsider, Obama has reached out to the same old folks who dominate the Democratic Party and represent the status quo.

His Transition Committee looks like a reunion of the Clinton Administration. No new ideas of how to reform the system there. The Chairman, John Podesta, was Clinton’s Chief of Staff. He presided over the outrageous last minute pardons and his style is strictly inside-the-beltway and make-no-waves.

Then there?s Carol Browner, Clinton?s competent former EPA Administrator who became the consummate Washington insider. She?s Madeline Albright?s partner and recently married mega-lobbyist and former Congressman Tom Downey. During the uproar over Dubai taking over U.S. ports, Browner brought Downey to meet with Senator Chuck Schumer to plead Dubai?s case. Downey was paid half a million dollars to push Dubai?s position. He?s also a lobbyist for Fannie Mae, paid half a million to try to cover their rears on the subprime mortgage mess. Is his change?

Federico Pena was Clinton?s Secretary of Transportation and of Energy. The President felt he was unduly soft on Air Florida after their crash and lost confidence in him. Now he?s back as a Transition Committee member.

Bill Daley, Clinton?s former Secretary of Commerce and the brother of the Mayor of Chicago, is the epitome of the old Democratic establishment. Clinton appointed him to the Fannie Mae Board and his son worked as a lobbyist for the agency. Aren?t these the kind of folks that Obama ran against?

Larry Summers, President of Harvard and former Clinton Secretary of the Treasury is not exactly an outsider either. He?s also alienated more than a few with his bizarre suggestion that women may be genetically inferior to men in math and science."

http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/2008/11/07/obamas-change-back-to-the-democratic-washington-insiders/#more-485

Change? LOL!!!

Oh come on now, don’t you know by now what he meant by change was putting a brother in the white house? Besides, the south park guys have exposed all this, it was all just a scheme for an oceans 11 type heist.

Wow a politician running a campaign on lies hoping the masses would be too stupid to see what he has done in his career.

That is something new.

[quote]apbt55 wrote:
Wow a politician running a campaign on lies hoping the masses would be too stupid to see what he has done in his career.

That is something new.[/quote]

Isn’t that the definition of politician?

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
"But now, Obama has definitely changed his tune. As president-elect, he’s brought back the old Washington hacks, party regulars, and Clinton sycophants that he so frequently disparaged. Like Jimmy Carter, the last President who ran as an outsider, Obama has reached out to the same old folks who dominate the Democratic Party and represent the status quo.

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Completely wrong. One of the reasons Carter’s presidency was such a disaster was because he initially surrounded himself with his Georgia clique, not Washington insiders who knew how to get things done on the Hill.

But yeah, it will be business as usual with Obama. Which is why both the leftists who saw him as a transformational secular messiah and the conservatives who were screaming about a dangerous radical were both way off.

[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
"But now, Obama has definitely changed his tune. As president-elect, he’s brought back the old Washington hacks, party regulars, and Clinton sycophants that he so frequently disparaged. Like Jimmy Carter, the last President who ran as an outsider, Obama has reached out to the same old folks who dominate the Democratic Party and represent the status quo.

Completely wrong. One of the reasons Carter’s presidency was such a disaster was because he initially surrounded himself with his Georgia clique, not Washington insiders who knew how to get things done on the Hill.

But yeah, it will be business as usual with Obama. Which is why both the leftists who saw him as a transformational secular messiah and the conservatives who were screaming about a dangerous radical were both way off.[/quote]

Your kidding right.

that is a joke, who is his SoC again.

Do you really think he has control of anything.

Pelosi will her hand way up his back side very soon.

[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
"But now, Obama has definitely changed his tune. As president-elect, he’s brought back the old Washington hacks, party regulars, and Clinton sycophants that he so frequently disparaged. Like Jimmy Carter, the last President who ran as an outsider, Obama has reached out to the same old folks who dominate the Democratic Party and represent the status quo.

Completely wrong. One of the reasons Carter’s presidency was such a disaster was because he initially surrounded himself with his Georgia clique, not Washington insiders who knew how to get things done on the Hill.

But yeah, it will be business as usual with Obama. Which is why both the leftists who saw him as a transformational secular messiah and the conservatives who were screaming about a dangerous radical were both way off.[/quote]

Or both right.

Yeah, cause experience is way overrated anyway. He should do like dubya and surround himself with cronies and idealogues instead. That seems to have worked out pretty well.

[quote]hedo wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
"But now, Obama has definitely changed his tune. As president-elect, he’s brought back the old Washington hacks, party regulars, and Clinton sycophants that he so frequently disparaged. Like Jimmy Carter, the last President who ran as an outsider, Obama has reached out to the same old folks who dominate the Democratic Party and represent the status quo.

Completely wrong. One of the reasons Carter’s presidency was such a disaster was because he initially surrounded himself with his Georgia clique, not Washington insiders who knew how to get things done on the Hill.

But yeah, it will be business as usual with Obama. Which is why both the leftists who saw him as a transformational secular messiah and the conservatives who were screaming about a dangerous radical were both way off.

Or both right.

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Yeah, it’s the extremes from both parties that are normally right. Good thinkin’! He’s the secular, radical, dangerous messiah!

Would could have predicted a politician lying!?!

[quote]tme wrote:
Yeah, cause experience is way overrated anyway. He should do like dubya and surround himself with cronies and idealogues instead. That seems to have worked out pretty well.

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Obama could bring back Monica, for a casual BJ every once in a while…but Larry Sinclair might get jealous.

I also have to wonder if Obama will use Slick Willie’s supplier. I’m sure those airfields in isolated parts of Arkansas are still there.

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
hedo wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
"But now, Obama has definitely changed his tune. As president-elect, he’s brought back the old Washington hacks, party regulars, and Clinton sycophants that he so frequently disparaged. Like Jimmy Carter, the last President who ran as an outsider, Obama has reached out to the same old folks who dominate the Democratic Party and represent the status quo.

Completely wrong. One of the reasons Carter’s presidency was such a disaster was because he initially surrounded himself with his Georgia clique, not Washington insiders who knew how to get things done on the Hill.

But yeah, it will be business as usual with Obama. Which is why both the leftists who saw him as a transformational secular messiah and the conservatives who were screaming about a dangerous radical were both way off.

Or both right.

Yeah, it’s the extremes from both parties that are normally right. Good thinkin’! He’s the secular, radical, dangerous messiah!
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True.

“Speaking of brash, Rahm Emmanuel, the new White House Chief of Staff, makes Cutter look timid. Rahm is also a former Clinton White House staffer - and a very obnoxious one. He spent his White House years leaking to the Washington Post whenever he didn?t like what the President was doing. Even Bill Clinton stopped trusting him. Any hopes of Obama keeping his commitment to reach across the aisle would go right out the window with Rahm?s appointment. Instead of extending a hand to the opposition, it would be like raising just one finger. And Rahm?s strident demeanor laced with the ?f? word in every sentence will do little to elevate the bipartisan dialogue in Washington.”

Dick Morris was Clinton’s guy. These are NOT the words of a random blogger.

Obama is just another politician who said exactly what everybody wanted to hear to gain power. Nothing new and a thing that has poisoned civilization. But if he does end up doing everything he says, his supporters will probably be the very ones who will end up against him.

If his presidency ends up being business as usual, then he’ll probably get re elected anyway cause he’ll give the whole, “this can’t be done in four years, give me another” speech.

I remember when the ones who wanted Bush in the white house. He promised extension of the military throughout the world, tougher stance toward our enemies and so on. Ever since the gulf war ended every other person wanted our troops to invade Iraq, kill off Saddam. Lots of people wanted war and Bush delivered, but is now hated because of it and the fact that many think he should have used the post 9/11 popularity boost for better than he did.

Do these things make these men horrible, no, we put them there. Most don’t pay attention to who gets elected to the house or senate cause of the same thing and wonder what the hell is going on in the world. You ask anyone who there state senator or representative is, and they either shrug and say they dont give a fuck or they go, oh some democrat or some republican which is all they need. It’s no wonder this country doesn’t have much of an identity, we’re unwilling to make one for ourselves.

I would not call it extreme to look at someones history in the state senate to see what they did and think, wow it would really suck for those of us working hard to provide for our families if he tries to enact those changes as president.

He has also added Jennifer Granholm (Governor if MI) to his economic advisory team. She is also rumored to be considered for a job on the Supreme Court, or as Secretary of Energy…

Really… Anyone who lives here in MI knows very well how great Granholm has been to this state. All she has done in her six years is raise taxes, increase unemployment, and put more people on food stamps.

This came up in my finance class this morning, this is a bonehead move by Obama. Granholm is totally clueless, and inept. She hasn’t improved the economic situation here in MI at all, in fact, she has made it worse.

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
hedo wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
"But now, Obama has definitely changed his tune. As president-elect, he’s brought back the old Washington hacks, party regulars, and Clinton sycophants that he so frequently disparaged. Like Jimmy Carter, the last President who ran as an outsider, Obama has reached out to the same old folks who dominate the Democratic Party and represent the status quo.

Completely wrong. One of the reasons Carter’s presidency was such a disaster was because he initially surrounded himself with his Georgia clique, not Washington insiders who knew how to get things done on the Hill.

But yeah, it will be business as usual with Obama. Which is why both the leftists who saw him as a transformational secular messiah and the conservatives who were screaming about a dangerous radical were both way off.

Or both right.

Yeah, it’s the extremes from both parties that are normally right. Good thinkin’! He’s the secular, radical, dangerous messiah!
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Sounds about right.

[quote]hedo wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
hedo wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
"But now, Obama has definitely changed his tune. As president-elect, he’s brought back the old Washington hacks, party regulars, and Clinton sycophants that he so frequently disparaged. Like Jimmy Carter, the last President who ran as an outsider, Obama has reached out to the same old folks who dominate the Democratic Party and represent the status quo.

Completely wrong. One of the reasons Carter’s presidency was such a disaster was because he initially surrounded himself with his Georgia clique, not Washington insiders who knew how to get things done on the Hill.

But yeah, it will be business as usual with Obama. Which is why both the leftists who saw him as a transformational secular messiah and the conservatives who were screaming about a dangerous radical were both way off.

Or both right.

Yeah, it’s the extremes from both parties that are normally right. Good thinkin’! He’s the secular, radical, dangerous messiah!

Sounds about right.[/quote]

That’s why I always come to PWI…to hear the right people. I honestly don’t know where else I could hear about Obama partnering up with the Muslim president of Kenya.

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
hedo wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
hedo wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
"But now, Obama has definitely changed his tune. As president-elect, he’s brought back the old Washington hacks, party regulars, and Clinton sycophants that he so frequently disparaged. Like Jimmy Carter, the last President who ran as an outsider, Obama has reached out to the same old folks who dominate the Democratic Party and represent the status quo.

Completely wrong. One of the reasons Carter’s presidency was such a disaster was because he initially surrounded himself with his Georgia clique, not Washington insiders who knew how to get things done on the Hill.

But yeah, it will be business as usual with Obama. Which is why both the leftists who saw him as a transformational secular messiah and the conservatives who were screaming about a dangerous radical were both way off.

Or both right.

Yeah, it’s the extremes from both parties that are normally right. Good thinkin’! He’s the secular, radical, dangerous messiah!

Sounds about right.

That’s why I always come to PWI…to hear the right people. I honestly don’t know where else I could hear about Obama partnering up with the Muslim president of Kenya. [/quote]

Glad to help out.

Let’s see… if BHO picks people who know their way around DC, then it’s the same old song and dance. “Change” was a lie, et.

If he picks new faces, then they lack experience and endanger the country because they learn as they go. “Change” is for the worse…

So really, WHO could Obama pick that would make you guys happy? Who would it need to be for HH to post “Obama pick X: Good choice!”

Better: I want to know who needs to be picked for HH to post with the headline “OMFG: Obama chooses my dream cabinet!”

[quote]pookie wrote:
Let’s see… if BHO picks people who know their way around DC, then it’s the same old song and dance. “Change” was a lie, et.

If he picks new faces, then they lack experience and endanger the country because they learn as they go. “Change” is for the worse…

So really, WHO could Obama pick that would make you guys happy? Who would it need to be for HH to post “Obama pick X: Good choice!”

Better: I want to know who needs to be picked for HH to post with the headline “OMFG: Obama chooses my dream cabinet!”
[/quote]

There you go: