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Obama Cancelled Bin Laden Raid 3 Times

"At the urging of Valerie Jarrett, President Barack Obama canceled the operation to kill Osama bin Laden on three separate occasions before finally approving the May 2, 2011 Navy SEAL mission, according to an explosive new book scheduled for release August 21. The Daily Caller has seen a portion of the chapter in which the stunning revelation appears.

In â??Leading From Behind: The Reluctant President and the Advisors Who Decide for Him,â?? Richard Miniter writes that Obama canceled the â??killâ?? mission in January 2011, again in February, and a third time in March. Obamaâ??s close adviser Valerie Jarrett persuaded him to hold off each time, according to the book."

http://redalertpolitics.com/2012/07/30/book-bombshell-obama-canceled-bin-laden-kill-raid-three-times-at-jarretts-urging/

Barack Obama…what a guy!!

What is the point…that the President carefully considered when to launch a raid into a sovereign nation…with a less than 40% probability that Bin Laden was even there?

Wednesday, November 7th can’t get here soon enough…

Mufasa

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
What is the point…that the President carefully considered when to launch a raid into a sovereign nation…with a less than 40% probability that Bin Laden was even there?

Wednesday, November 7th can’t get here soon enough…

Mufasa[/quote]

He cancelled 3 times. They knew he was there. He was afraid of offending the ‘Pah-kee-stan-ees’ and the libs.

Wimp =/= carefully considered

Fresh from the pages of “Who gives a fuck”.
He got Bin Laden, get over it.

[quote]pat wrote:
Fresh from the pages of “Who gives a fuck”.
He got Bin Laden, get over it.[/quote]

Word.

At least give credit where it’s due…was he or was he not killed on his watch? Yes.

[quote]Neuromancer wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:
Fresh from the pages of “Who gives a fuck”.
He got Bin Laden, get over it.[/quote]

Word.

At least give credit where it’s due…was he or was he not killed on his watch? Yes.[/quote]

I agree with you Neuro, I give Obama his due on this one. Obama may fail miserably when it comes to trying to figure out how to move the economy in the proper direction but he definitely saw to it that the one mad man was killed.

That means he has done exactly one thing right in four years!

[quote]Neuromancer wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:
Fresh from the pages of “Who gives a fuck”.
He got Bin Laden, get over it.[/quote]

Word.

At least give credit where it’s due…was he or was he not killed on his watch? Yes.[/quote]

Heh,heh…they woke him up to tell him that the op was in progress. “Get in here Mr. President…for your photo op.”

Obama = scum

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]Neuromancer wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:
Fresh from the pages of “Who gives a fuck”.
He got Bin Laden, get over it.[/quote]

Word.

At least give credit where it’s due…was he or was he not killed on his watch? Yes.[/quote]

Heh,heh…they woke him up to tell him that the op was in progress. “Get in here Mr. President…for your photo op.”

Obama = scum
[/quote]

You know who is to blame when a ship hits an iceberg when the captain is sound asleep?

The captain.

You know who is to blame when the ship evades an iceberg while the captain is sound asleep?

The very same.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Neuromancer wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:
Fresh from the pages of “Who gives a fuck”.
He got Bin Laden, get over it.[/quote]

Word.

At least give credit where it’s due…was he or was he not killed on his watch? Yes.[/quote]

I agree with you Neuro, I give Obama his due on this one. Obama may fail miserably when it comes to trying to figure out how to move the economy in the proper direction but he definitely saw to it that the one mad man was killed.

That means he has done exactly one thing right in four years![/quote]

“His due?” Meaning he did not stand in the way again? The effort involved not SEALs alone but a large array of support personnel and intelligence.; the selfsame personnel and intelligence is being threatened by Mr. Obama’s and Mr. Clinton’s leaks.

Here is a credible group which does not necessarily agree with credit-claiming current occupant of the White House:
http://soforamerica.org/?page_id=154

[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Neuromancer wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:
Fresh from the pages of “Who gives a fuck”.
He got Bin Laden, get over it.[/quote]

Word.

At least give credit where it’s due…was he or was he not killed on his watch? Yes.[/quote]

I agree with you Neuro, I give Obama his due on this one. Obama may fail miserably when it comes to trying to figure out how to move the economy in the proper direction but he definitely saw to it that the one mad man was killed.

That means he has done exactly one thing right in four years![/quote]

“His due?” Meaning he did not stand in the way again? The effort involved not SEALs alone but a large array of support personnel and intelligence.; the selfsame personnel and intelligence is being threatened by Mr. Obama’s and Mr. Clinton’s leaks.

Here is a credible group which does not necessarily agree with credit-claiming current occupant of the White House:
http://soforamerica.org/?page_id=154
[/quote]

The only issue Obama cared about was people finding out that he delayed and delayed, when he should ACT. When it became obvious that his dilly dallying might cost him votes, he said, “Ah, do what you people want!!” and went to bed.

He wouldn’t have killed the scum OBL otherwise but for people finding out how pussified he is.

Seriously, Obama is just a spoiled little brat who got elected because he’s black. He shouldn’t be in charge of anything.

This story is based on the testimony of a single unnamed source. No one knows whether it’s all or partially true. And it furthermore doesn’t matter in any way, because Osama Bin Laden is right now exactly where he should be–at the bottom of the fucking ocean.

More importantly, many of you are so partisan as to be essentially mindless. You judge everything based upon your preconceptions, regardless of the fact that your preconceptions are meaningless in the face of reality unfolding as it actually does. You pout and whine and do absolutely everything in your power to find fault with those you have decided to call your enemies. Obama can do no right in your eyes, even when he is definitely doing right.

To take an opposite example, there were many liberals–just as dumb as some of you fucktards–who, if they’d seen George W. Bush pour a bucket of water on a flaming baby, would’ve sworn they’d seen the president try to drown a child.

I respect the fact that Zeb–as conservative a poster as I’ve seen–is intellectually capable of judging individual events. He pretty much hates Obama and certainly hates all of his policies, but he is not stupid enough to begrudge the man praise for killing OBL. It is that ability to see reality with clarity that we need more of.

[quote]smh23 wrote:
It is that ability to see reality with clarity that we need more of.
[/quote]

I wouldn’t wait around for that to happen.

It seems it is easier to let someone else do the thinking for you, and I see it from all the parties.

I swear, everyone in Washington gathers around drinking $170 bottles of whiskey on Thursday nights and laughs and laughs at how fucking stupid and distracted ‘the people’ really are.

I would typically just say that people get back what they put in, but their lack of putting in is fucking up my life to the point where my personal responcibility may not be enough to keep me and mine going.

edit: added “keep”

[quote]smh23 wrote:
This story is based on the testimony of a single unnamed source. No one knows whether it’s all or partially true. And it furthermore doesn’t matter in any way, because Osama Bin Laden is right now exactly where he should be–at the bottom of the fucking ocean.

More importantly, many of you are so partisan as to be essentially mindless. … to begrudge the man praise for killing OBL. It is that ability to see reality with clarity that we need more of.
[/quote]

The man, Mr. Obama, did not kill OBL. It took months of planning, the SEALs and their support teams, and intelligence gathered over months–in fact, years, since the presidency of GW Bush. That is the reality and clarity of which we need more.

The insight which one should have–whatever partisan leanings one might have–is that it is support for a large and ponderous military effort which achieves a singular goal. Mr. Obama did not kill OBL, thousands of dedicated men and women, inside and outside of the service, did. When that support is cut back–as it may with the impending sequestration–defense fails.

Mr. Obama fails on 2 counts: by jeopardizing (through leaks, for example, the security of those in the service, and by playing political bean-bag with the budget cliff that looms ahead and threatens the legitimate defense interests of the USA. “Spiking the ball” is only a sideshow, and a distasteful one at that.

Now that, sir, is clarity.

Frivolous and partisan to discredit Obama’s role in OBL’s death. Some of you need to check yourselves.

[quote]smh23 wrote:
More importantly, many of you are so partisan as to be essentially mindless. You judge everything based upon your preconceptions, regardless of the fact that your preconceptions are meaningless in the face of reality unfolding as it actually does. You pout and whine and do absolutely everything in your power to find fault with those you have decided to call your enemies. Obama can do no right in your eyes, even when he is definitely doing right.

[/quote]

You can honestly say such stupidity after almost 4 years in office?

Better get Obama’s nutsack out of your mouth before you suffocate.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:
More importantly, many of you are so partisan as to be essentially mindless. You judge everything based upon your preconceptions, regardless of the fact that your preconceptions are meaningless in the face of reality unfolding as it actually does. You pout and whine and do absolutely everything in your power to find fault with those you have decided to call your enemies. Obama can do no right in your eyes, even when he is definitely doing right.

[/quote]

You can honestly say such stupidity after almost 4 years in office?

Better get Obama’s nutsack out of your mouth before you suffocate.
[/quote]

Nothing is stupider and more petty than to attack someone for their successes. The whole line of reasoning sounds dumber than mule shit. He got Bin Laden but not good enough? You’re attacking the worlds most defensible position with shoddy, non-credible claims, about something he did right? Sounds desperate to me.
What you going to attack him with next? Oh the birth certificate.

If you want to make damn sure he gets reelected, beat these ridiculous drums.

[quote]Severiano wrote:
Frivolous and partisan to discredit Obama’s role in OBL’s death. Some of you need to check yourselves.[/quote]

Oh?

Is the following not equally true?: “Frivolous and partisan to credit Obama’s role in OBL’s death. Some of you need to check yourselves.”

[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:

[quote]Severiano wrote:
Frivolous and partisan to discredit Obama’s role in OBL’s death. Some of you need to check yourselves.[/quote]

Oh?

Is the following not equally true?: “Frivolous and partisan to credit Obama’s role in OBL’s death. Some of you need to check yourselves.”[/quote]

I very much dislike obama, but I am going after the shit he did wrong. There is no leg to stand on with this line of reasoning. Your obama loving counterparts will kick your ass if this is the kind of crap you bring to the table.
Hammer him where it counts, the economy. He fucked that up royally. Plenty of ammo there.

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:

[quote]Severiano wrote:
Frivolous and partisan to discredit Obama’s role in OBL’s death. Some of you need to check yourselves.[/quote]

Oh?

Is the following not equally true?: “Frivolous and partisan to credit Obama’s role in OBL’s death. Some of you need to check yourselves.”[/quote]

I very much dislike obama, but I am going after the shit he did wrong. There is no leg to stand on with this line of reasoning. Your obama loving counterparts will kick your ass if this is the kind of crap you bring to the table.
Hammer him where it counts, the economy. He fucked that up royally. Plenty of ammo there.[/quote]

I have had very brief acquaintance of Adm. McRaven, both before 2010. Here, from Wiki, is as much as we will know for a while:

"McRaven is credited for organizing and executing Operation Neptune’s Spear,[7] the special ops raid that led to the death of Osama bin Laden on May 2, 2011. CIA Director Leon Panetta delegated the raid to McRaven who has worked almost exclusively on counterterrorism operations and strategy since 2001.[7] According to the New York Times, “In February, Mr. Panetta called Vice Adm. William H. McRaven, commander of the Pentagon’s Joint Special Operations Command, to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, to give him details about the compound and to begin planning a military strike. Admiral McRaven, a veteran of the covert world who had written a book on American Special Operations, spent weeks working with the C.I.A. on the operation, and came up with three options: a helicopter assault using U.S. Navy SEALs, a strike with B-2 bombers that would obliterate the compound, or a joint raid with Pakistani intelligence operatives who would be told about the mission hours before the launch.”[8] The day before the assault, “Mr. Obama took a break from rehearsing for the White House Correspondents Dinner that night to call Admiral McRaven, to wish him luck.”[8] "

You will note Mr. Obama’s involvement in the last line.

Adm McRaven, who I found as laconic as they come, is no dummy. You do not get to be a 4-star admiral by playing dumb, and he is not about to contradict or enlighten the press about his superiors until he is well out of service. (Please see one General McChrystal for the counter-example.)

Whether I dislike Obama or not is not the issue. Please see my prior comment, and the soforamerica.org website, for a respectful assessment of the role of a real Commander in Chief.

[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:
This story is based on the testimony of a single unnamed source. No one knows whether it’s all or partially true. And it furthermore doesn’t matter in any way, because Osama Bin Laden is right now exactly where he should be–at the bottom of the fucking ocean.

More importantly, many of you are so partisan as to be essentially mindless. … to begrudge the man praise for killing OBL. It is that ability to see reality with clarity that we need more of.
[/quote]

The man, Mr. Obama, did not kill OBL. It took months of planning, the SEALs and their support teams, and intelligence gathered over months–in fact, years, since the presidency of GW Bush. That is the reality and clarity of which we need more.

The insight which one should have–whatever partisan leanings one might have–is that it is support for a large and ponderous military effort which achieves a singular goal. Mr. Obama did not kill OBL, thousands of dedicated men and women, inside and outside of the service, did. When that support is cut back–as it may with the impending sequestration–defense fails.

Mr. Obama fails on 2 counts: by jeopardizing (through leaks, for example, the security of those in the service, and by playing political bean-bag with the budget cliff that looms ahead and threatens the legitimate defense interests of the USA. “Spiking the ball” is only a sideshow, and a distasteful one at that.

Now that, sir, is clarity.[/quote]

I said: “to begrudge the man praise for killing OBL.” It should be obvious that I did not mean this phrase to be taken literally. And I agree with you that the mission itself was a success because of the work of thousands of people, many of them from previous administrations, etc.

But that is irrelevant. My point is that Obama handled it well–that is, the motherfucker is dead. Get over the fact that something went well under Obama’a watch.

As an addendum, I wonder if you would be just as “fair” in appropriating responsibility for our nation’s current economic woes? I mean that sincerely.