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Obama Birth Certificate Controversy


This thing is really starting to heat up. The USSC is currently discussing whether to hear a case brought forth by Leo Donofrio, but I think this case is more of a cover up than anything. Donofrio is taking the "Obama was born in Hawaii to a British citizen and is therefore British" stance. Kind of like the old Mark McGuire was on androstenedione trick.

Meanwhile, Philip Berg is pushing his case to the USSC, despite it being dismissed in a lower court for his lack of standing. And to combat the lack of standing Alan Keyes, who was on the California ballot for the American Independent Party, has filed suit in that state claiming that Obama was ineligible to be on the ballot. There are also at least a dozen other cases on the same subject.






So, the million dollar question is why doesn't he just show the original and be done with all of this? I know he has it, it's tucked away with some old immunization records. He said so himself.


It seems obvious. If I had a bunch of annoying idiots dogging me about a question they're too stupid to accept as settled and done with; and they'd found some piffling non-issue that keeps them busy, I'd leave them to it.

Hell, I'd string them along for as long as possible. Keeping morons away from important issues is a major gain.

Maybe Barack can ask the "Loose Change" guys to give them a hand...


Wouldn't it be better to simply shut down your democracy for 7 weeks?


Who really knows why not?

Has anyone heard anything more about his "allegedly illegal campaign contributions"?


This topic obviously needs another 5 or 6 threads, who'll start one next week?


You left out this case, which looks much more likely to succeed than Berg.



I've got to read more into that one. I've been doing my best to keep up with this thing, but there are so many suits right now that it has become very difficult.


Is that really worth throwing thousands (probably more like hundreds of thousands, if not millions) to three separate law firms (not three laywers, three firms) to get these things dismissed on technicalities?


It just seems that it would be a lot cheaper and a lot less trouble if he would just show the real thing.


I still can't believe people can't accept he one and now their clutching at straws.

Look, him and McCain stole the Hope diamond. Get over it.


couldn't we say that about the people bitching the past 8 years?

We're attempting to be a free country, bitching, and questioning about our leaders is inherent to it. And by the way Obama has acted in the past, bitching about our president is going to be a hell of a lot more looked down on then it was for during Bush's reign.


Because they're fucking retards.

Is FactCheck part of the conspiracy too?



There are some reported ties between Obama and Factcheck. Not saying they are true but if you want to be fully informed you must investigate all leads.

BTW, on the link you provided,

  1. Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago.

  2. The Associated Press quoted Chiyome Fukino as saying that both she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

Just wondering how the Original can be in two places at once?

(And all the pictures are of the COLB and not the BC that they claim to have pictures of)

FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate.

If that is correct and someone can direct me to the photos I would appreciate it.


It's one thing to bitch about his policies, it's another entirely to be spreading half-baked rumors about a guy just because he got elected over your choice. You HONESTLY think he's a closet Muslim non-American with plans to hand the country over to the terrorists? You think the people who plan SUICIDE bombings are smart enough to get Obama to run a 10 year "Christian-American" scam?


I don't really understand what people are questioning here.

Obama is obviously a Kenyan-born, Indonesian citizen who is secretly a militant, black, Arab Muslim. He's connected to the Muslim President of Kenya, his father is not really his father, and he is now using the black panthers to create a gestapo-like, mandatory, paramilitary police force.

What don't you folks understand?

Haven't you all been learning anything from PWI for the last few months?


It's all so clear now. Throw in the Hope diamond scandal and he's the perfect criminal.


This is a non-story. Why doesn't Sarah Palin produce her medical records to quiet rumors that her pregnancy with Trig was faked? Both these 'stories' are on about the same footing.


Democrats were bitching for quite a while about election fraud and Bush stealing the election.


How many babies does the constitution require you to have before you are eligible to be VP?


Unfortunately I have to agree. I think obama is a piece of shit, but this issue is settled and has been. Beating a dead horse is keeping the focus off more important things like preventing an overwhelming socialist agenda from infiltrating the basic structure of the government. That's more important then where the dickhead was born.
If this issue had any validity, he would not be president, period. It's not like you could hide something like that for very long, not for the most exposed office in the world.


Supreme Court won't hear the case. Decided today.