Just to anyone on here who is thinking that GI matters for fat loss do a search and find the thread Zraw was referencing. Experiment was done by a well known BB/coach in which all carbs were from crappy high GI sources and fat was lost and leaness was acheived. So again why does GI matter for BBers?
I’m wondering why my post wasn’t posted…I made a huge explanation…
[quote]gkeeper24 wrote:
@Facko Can you explain your rationale behind this? High glycemic load carbs lead to a quickly raised blood sugar and insulin levels leading to fat gain. You believe that only your macros matter and not the carb source? So you believe that eating an apple with peanut butter is equal to eating a peanut butter sandwich? [/quote]
Bodycomposition wise? Yes. Totally
Plz refer to thread “Carb source doesnt matter”
[quote]gkeeper24 wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]gkeeper24 wrote:
@Facko Can you explain your rationale behind this? High glycemic load carbs lead to a quickly raised blood sugar and insulin levels leading to fat gain. You believe that only your macros matter and not the carb source? So you believe that eating an apple with peanut butter is equal to eating a peanut butter sandwich? [/quote]
Why is an insulin spike bad for BBing purposes? Plz explain[/quote]
Insulin is a anabolic hormone, and is great when utilized at the right time such as post workout when glycogen is depleted. However, fat cannot be burned or released in the presence of insulin. Insulin prevents fat burning and low insulin levels is a big reason low carb diets have the success they do. If there is still excess sugar after glycogen levels are full the sugar is packaged into triglycerides, like if you were to have a high sugar meal with full glycogen levels. Insulin also interferes with fat burning by inhibiting the amino acid carnitine which uses fat as fuel. So after consuming a high carbohydrate meal your live can do three things 1. pass it through and send it through the blood stream 2 transform it to glycogen and store in in the liver or muscles 3 use it to make triglycerides. Insulin spikes should not be used regularly throughout the day for overall health and fat loss.[/quote]
Actually, a big reason low carb diets are great at stripping weight is their positive impact on water weight and the satiety from high fat foods, which encourages a net deficit in calories.
“We conducted a one-year, multicenter, controlled trial involving 63 obese men and women who were randomly assigned to either a low-carbohydrate, high-protein, high-fat diet or a low-calorie, high-carbohydrate, low-fat (conventional) diet. […] Subjects on the low-carbohydrate diet had lost more weight than subjects on the conventional diet at 3 months (mean [±SD], â??6.8±5.0 vs. â??2.7±3.7 percent of body weight; P=0.001) and 6 months (â??7.0±6.5 vs. â??3.2±5.6 percent of body weight, P=0.02), but the difference at 12 months was not significant (â??4.4±6.7 vs. â??2.5±6.3 percent of body weight, P=0.26). […] Both diets significantly decreased diastolic blood pressure and the insulin response to an oral glucose load.”
[quote]gkeeper24 wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]gkeeper24 wrote:
@Facko Can you explain your rationale behind this? High glycemic load carbs lead to a quickly raised blood sugar and insulin levels leading to fat gain. You believe that only your macros matter and not the carb source? So you believe that eating an apple with peanut butter is equal to eating a peanut butter sandwich? [/quote]
Why is an insulin spike bad for BBing purposes? Plz explain[/quote]
Insulin is a anabolic hormone, and is great when utilized at the right time such as post workout when glycogen is depleted. However, fat cannot be burned or released in the presence of insulin. Insulin prevents fat burning and low insulin levels is a big reason low carb diets have the success they do. If there is still excess sugar after glycogen levels are full the sugar is packaged into triglycerides, like if you were to have a high sugar meal with full glycogen levels. Insulin also interferes with fat burning by inhibiting the amino acid carnitine which uses fat as fuel. So after consuming a high carbohydrate meal your live can do three things 1. pass it through and send it through the blood stream 2 transform it to glycogen and store in in the liver or muscles 3 use it to make triglycerides. Insulin spikes should not be used regularly throughout the day for overall health and fat loss.[/quote]
So we better never spike insulin then…Insulin does go back down after a hi GI meal. Also when eating a mixed meal GI goes out the window. You not understand any of this? You read the thread Zraw has referenced 2 times? Obviously if we are eating shit carbs all day long then we got issues but isnt that obvious? Most likely if you are doing that then you are eating too many calories. ALso devnolipogenisis is very hard for our body to do which is what your number 3 is
[quote]gkeeper24 wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]gkeeper24 wrote:
@Facko Can you explain your rationale behind this? High glycemic load carbs lead to a quickly raised blood sugar and insulin levels leading to fat gain. You believe that only your macros matter and not the carb source? So you believe that eating an apple with peanut butter is equal to eating a peanut butter sandwich? [/quote]
Why is an insulin spike bad for BBing purposes? Plz explain[/quote]
Insulin is a anabolic hormone, and is great when utilized at the right time such as post workout when glycogen is depleted. However, fat cannot be burned or released in the presence of insulin. [/quote]
Ok? Bodybuilders need to gain muscle at some point as well. It’s not all about fat loss.
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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Obviously if we are eating shit carbs all day long then we got issues but isnt that obvious?[/quote]
Also x2 on this. Eating ANY nutrient at times and/or in quantities where it isn’t needed is going to be less than ideal. Part of building an even remotely decent physique is learning what/when/how much to eat.
Also I ate 2 cups or more of oats per day forever and I hate them now lol. Rice all day ery day for the moment. Or like, other shit if it’s free and delicious.