I went to a BJJ competition Saturday (just to watch and get a feel for it) and one kid didn’t tap and got his arm broken, another didn’t tap and was put to sleep.
Why wouldn’t they just tap? I don’t see how tapping hurts pride more then getting an arm broken. Anyone have insight?[/quote]
Some camps are really big on this. They see it as a disgrace to give up. So instead, they’d rather get their arm broken/get put to sleep than to say “uncle”. The Gracie family for example is real big on this.
Being put to sleep, I can understand. It’s not going to do any permanent damage to you, an you’ll pretty much be fine in a couple of minutes. But getting your arm broken, or rotator cuff blown out, or knee blown out just for the sake of pride is stupid IMO. Some of those are career ending injuries, and even if they’re not, you’re going to be paying for them down the road.
It also depends on the submission. Some submissions (like arm bars, chokes, shoulder locks, knee bars, achilles locks) you feel the pain/effects from the lock well before it is going to do serious damage. So you can fight them longer. This could potentially wind up with you overestimating the amount of time/ROM that you have to fight, and wind up getting hurt/going to sleep.
Others (like heel hooks and small digit locks) you may not feel anything until the joint actually goes. Which is why a lot of competitions don’t allow these locks.
In practice, you almost always want to tap if you know that the person has really got the lock in well. If you can defend it before then of course do. But there’s no use in potentially getting an injury that’s not going to allow you to train for months, just for the sake of ego.
I’ve had my thumb snapped before (yes, we used to train allowing small digit locks), and I really didn’t even feel any pain and thought that I could fight out of the lock. That was until I heard my thumb snap (sounded like someone snapping a raw carrot in half) and felt the joint just completely go.
Luckily it was just a dislocation (may have torn a ligament, I dont know, the doctor didn’t seem to think so, but I didn’t have any x-rays done), and the thumb actually popped right back into place as soon as my training partner let go of it. I had full functionality immediately following as well, and it really didn’t even hurt that much, more numb than anything.
But, boy oh boy did it hurt later that night and the next day. It pretty much put me out of training seriously for at least a couple months.
Don’t be dumb like I was, know when you’re beat and tap.