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Nootropic Dosages (Cy and Others)

Supplements and Nutrition
#1

Hi there. Cy - I was referred to you in my other thread with regards to Nootropics. I have one question for you (and any others who may know). I have pretty much finalised my first nootropic stack, and just want to finalise dosages. I will buy in bulk and mix the required amounts to make one large batch with the right ratios.

Alcar - 2.5g
Chocamine - 2g
L-Tyrosine - 500mg
NAC - 500mg
Caffeine - 200mg

Any changes you would suggest to those?

Thanks in Advance,
X

#2

you could up the tyrosine, no problem with a gram, gram and a half.

#3

Thanks for the tip. It is relatively inexpensive to 1g should be fine.

Thanks, will do. Plan on ordering it this week. Depending on international mail and customs, I should have it within two weeks, upon which I will try and let you know.

One other question: should I perhaps consider adding Taurine? I see it is used a lot together with Alcar, and is fairly cheap. I was thinking of adding 2.5g to the stack. Being very inexpensive it easily fits into my budget.

Cheers
X

#4

I’d agree with the increasing the tyrosine doses at least a gram if not 1.5 or two.

Taurine is unrelated to your goals, rather add ginko or vinpocetine (they are similar, but vinpo is a stronger vasodilator).

#5

Hi there. What is taurine for - is it a vasodilator rather than a nootropic? Would it not be useful for preworkout?

I can get Ginko powder which is “Standardized for 24% Ginkgoflavinoglycosides and 6% Terpene Lactones”. What dosage should I use?

#6

I really hope you are capping this. I have done a combo of all these and more and most people could NOT stomach the taste of a lot of these.

I did it though so it can be done.

Just a warning

#7

Forgot to add. In the end sure it was fun but the payback is NOWHERE near the hassle.

Diggin my Spike and Power Drive.

#8

[quote]xenithon wrote:
Hi there. What is taurine for - is it a vasodilator rather than a nootropic? Would it not be useful for preworkout?

I can get Ginko powder which is “Standardized for 24% Ginkgoflavinoglycosides and 6% Terpene Lactones”. What dosage should I use?[/quote]

I too like both Spike and Power Drive though I’ve used them for alertness/staying awake and haven’t tried them pre-workout (in my body Spike was subtle and Power Drive would be better pre-workout YMMV).

I think taurine falls into the “cell volumizer” type supp e.g. NO land, but don’t quote me as that ain’t my area of interest/expertise. More here in PDR of supps:

http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/nmdrugprofiles/nutsupdrugs/tau_0246.shtml

#9

I used to try taking alot of different things like this, but I agree you cant beat the Spike route, and I add in some Vitamin World Focus Complex which has among others small doses of C,E,B-6,B-12, Biotin, fish oil,ginko,alpha lipoic acid,acetyl l-carnitine,gotu kola,huperzine a,vinpocetine, and their “blend” of phosphatidyl serine,DMAE,l glutamic acid,choline bitartrate,inositol,bilberry,grape seed, and some other herbs.

In college I tried to order nootropics after reading about them in MM2K and they got stopped at customs even though they were all legal.

#10

Please no more Spike and PD pimping. As mentioned in a previous thread, it is simply too expensive, especially without the USPS shipping option available for international orders yet.

The new Spike 50-tab bottle with shipping, which will be around a month’s supply, will cost me around $100. For about $120 I can get the nootropics in bulk to make my own stack for around 6 months. And that doesn’t even begin to factor in Power Drive.

I do not want to come off like a cheapskate, but with that cost comparison, and with the high exchange rate for me to the US$, Spike/Power Drive are simply non-options (you get them locally but it is the old stock only and pricing is stupid: equivalent of around $80 for 60 tabs of Spike).