I’ve used quite a few of these products and other then a “decent pump” (nothing compare to any steroid), I was not impressed. Citruline malate (sp?) IS a pretty decent product for increasing stamina and combined with some bcaa and creatine (either regular or ethyl ester) it gives you some decent results. ie. more stamina, some increase in strength and better pumps. I can’t say where but if you bother to look around you can find ALOT of these products (glycerol monosterate also works well ie. great pumps and some increase in stamina) on the internet for WAY less money. It’s real simple guys. Pick up the overpriced, fancy labeled, steroid freak endorsed product, look at the ingredients and RESEARCH THEM! Like our good man Phil you might learn something.
BTW I hope it’s not too much of a jack but I’ve noticed something. I don’t gain weight off of creatine anymore? When I was younger and it first came out I remember phosphagen (EAS) and then PHOSPHAGEN HP! I gained off of them. In fact I even remember taking Ribose C (that’s a Biotest product) and making some gains on the scale. ANymore they don’t do jack, other then a better pump and some strength. I’ve thought about this and concluded that perhaps due to my very large intake of protein (300-400 grams a day) maybe I’m getting my creatine from there? SO supplemental creatine does nothing? However I don’t eat that much red meat, and I never eat herring. Anyone else notice this? [/quote]
Funny you mention this. I’m assessing what supplement I might take for that additional edge and I completely agree with you. Back when EAS 1st came out, my first year on PHOSPHAGEN HP I had good gains. I’m 42 now and have limited success with using creatine. I’m not very diligent with my diet but it’s decent and I cannot say that I’m getting extra creatine from my diet which would negate the supplement. I’d like to hear some theories. Could it be the older you get the less it helps due to some type of metabolic change or maybe you need to really increase the amount you take to a much higher level.