No Libido. What Should my Next Move Be?

how is it without cialis?

Poppin 50mg clomid a day now, fertility purposes but also to try increase e2ā€¦ starting to feel fucking horny

Never tested without cialisā€¦
50mg clomid while on trt?

I am sure it wonā€™t effect majority or not many. But I know ive tested real low E2 in the past without taking much AI if any at all. Just never crossed my mind I had periods of taking daily cialis. Then when I remember the symptoms and all it makes sense. Including dry cracked lips, etc.

I think unless cialis daily greatly reduces your E2, the pros outweigh the cons in taking it.

Does anyone have any labs to show befores and afters?

I made a thread about that, supposedly people say it doesnā€™t work to raise anything while on TRT.

Hereā€™s an interesting note, and I wanna say I made a thread in the past about it:

Iā€™ve noticed that when I take cialis WITH viagra, the effect isnā€™t as good as when I just take viagra alone.

I will generally pop around 20-30mg of cialis and 150mg viagra if I have a lady coming over. The affect is there, but i recall just using 100mg viagra and things were awesome.

Itā€™s almost like the affect now is diminished, which makes you instinctively think you want more PDE5. Maybe thatā€™s whats causing it due to a lowered e2 during that day or time you take it?

I hate that iā€™m so abnormal. Ugh.

Not so sure dude, you mention you run higher E2 on a normal basis. I been as low as 10-20 E2 only have taken 0.125 Anastrozole 2-3 weeks ago when I ran daily cialis.

My e2 was the same with and without Cialis although I was on a very low dose, 3mg compounded daily. Had to discontinue due to sides. Sinus pressure, lethargy, indigestion. Also it had no benefit to my erection quality when my estradiol was even slightly elevated out of range, but worked much better with lower e2. Viagra was much better as far as effectiveness. Although still the sinus pressure.
Does anyone else notice that they seem to diminish sensitivity?

It could also just be the side effects. At first it seems to work fine what ever the cause eventually the side effects become over bearing for me taking it daily. Low e2 or not, the side effects get to a point I donā€™t feel well enough to function properly in that department.

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Daily Vit D and Zinc along with dark leafy greens helps me.

I get crazy strength and energy on 5 mg Cialis! My blood pressure drops from 135/75 ā†’ 104/64 and 100/57.

Really? Well something is happening cause i feel the pressure to get the deed done and every morning since i started i have a rock hard morning boner.

On test alone, morning boner is usually never there

Yeah I am not sure if people are fully aware of whats the aim here, I am guessing for us its to possibly raise E2 if nothing else. I have read it does raise E2, but not sure as it seems so rare to see TRT and clomid.

Dropped cialis for some days now, feeling better again.

I dropped cialis too and iā€™ll report back if I notice anything.

I have read cialis and viagra both raise test, which would raise E2. So seems like conflictory studies out thereā€¦

The only things I read in that regard is it will stop conversion so you will have more T due to less conversion hence less E2.

Going to stick to Viagra as needed here and there.

But yeah dude the side effects get over bearing for me always when I try and eventually I feel like such trash for one reason or another that the effects of blood flow dont even matter anymore.

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For whatever itā€™s worth, iā€™m finding a little success with appx 20mg EOD. Iā€™m desiring to masturbate more often. Sometimes a few times a day, which is rare as hell for me.

Not sure that our numbers line up, but may be worth a try if youā€™re thinking of trying a different protocol.

As of today i stopped taking my cialis too. Lets see what happensā€¦

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What I am trying to figure out is per my last blood work. Total estrogen is in range at 124.4 (60-190), but then how is me estradiol untraceable at <15.

Does it even matter? Should that be ā€œfixedā€? Etc.

Total Estrogens is E2, the most potent form of estrogen, and the weak estrogens E1 and E3. Total estrogens isnā€™t very useful, as you have found out, because your weak estrogens are fine and your E2 is undetectable.

The E2 is the only relevant estrogen you should be concerned about.