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Nicotine as a Supplement?

So it’s been well documented that nicotine is a pretty powerfull stimulant. Now I’m not trying to advocate smoking, but would smokeless nicotine products be something to try as an ergongenic aid?

Well its known to improve memory function so I don’t see why not. Apart from being fairly addictive, it sounds decent enough. Although I don’t know how available it is through non tobacco related nicotine products.

Out of curiousity, why are you looking at taking nicotine?

Some endurance athletes (cyclists) have used it, apparently it allows you to burn a greater % of fat for energy, thus saving carb stores. Google it.

As an ex smoker/dipper…

You’re going to want to not do that.

Does it not also speed up metabolism.

Hence smokers who quit usually put on weight?

[quote]msd0060 wrote:
As an ex smoker/dipper…

You’re going to want to not do that.[/quote]

I smoke a little bit, and use a little dry snuff here and there (I know, gross, up the nose? I get to hear that all the time). It’s so sporadic that you can’t call it an addiction. I can’t say that i’m a non-smoker tho. I was just wondering purely out of curiosity. Caffeine is rampant in almost every pre-workout and fat loss supplement out there. Knowing nic is so powerful, it makes you wonder if thats why it’s not used. Then again, caffeine also poses an addicitive risk as well.

I used to be a competitive cyclist as well, but never used any nicotine products then.

[quote]msd0060 wrote:
As an ex smoker/dipper…

You’re going to want to not do that.[/quote]

LOL.

This thread is one of the dumbest I’ve ever seen.

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LOL.

This thread is one of the dumbest I’ve ever seen.[/quote]

And why is that?

Why would you want to supplement with something that is highly addictive? Addictions are lack of control, is that really worth it?

[quote]taras wrote:

LOL.

This thread is one of the dumbest I’ve ever seen.

And why is that? [/quote]

because you want to use a fairly addictive substance as a workout stimulate. There are other safer alternatives…

I don’t know about america but it’s fucking shit expensive in uk.

[quote]elusive wrote:
Why would you want to supplement with something that is highly addictive? Addictions are lack of control, is that really worth it?[/quote]

To be honest, considering the dozens of other compounds people use to gain muscle or lose fat I don’t see this as being a big deal.

Nicotine reduces appetite, and is a stimulant if used correctly.

That said, why would you want to use it regularly ?

It is quite addictive, even more so than many illegal drugs.

I wasn’t impying that the nicotine in and of itself was the problem. But why expose yourself to a possible addiction? I don’t know, not my call.

well, nicotine helps juice up inflammation and for the body to lay down plaque in your coronary arteries.

so if i was competing for money it may be a cost/benefit equation. just be sure to keep your HDL elevated and your LDL <100. And take a baby aspirin daily.

Not that big of a deal. I’ve used it before. Gum or patch is your safest bet. If you don’t take it regularly, addiction isn’t something to worry about.

For whatever it’s worth I typically smoke a cigar per day, and I haven’t notice any changes in my body composition.

I’ve heard of some using the gum or patch for cutting, though.

Was just curious to see if anyone had any info other than the common addiction knowledge out there. Studies seem spotty at best, and I think that’s mainly because nobody wants to really touch it, sort of like a taboo.

On the other hand, the bad rap associated with nicotine addiction is tied to the smoking side of it. Would the nicotine stigma be as bad if smoke inhalation/lung damage wasn’t present?

Do you think athletes may start using the nicorette inhaler on days of big competitions?

There is evidence that nicotine in isolation is not nearly as addictive as tobacco, which suggests that there are other chemicals that enhance the addictive qualities of tobacco.

I would like to see someone(non smoker/dipper) become addicted to wearing the patch. Honestly, I doubt they would.

Unless anyone has taken it outside of smoking, I wouldn’t really listen to all the addiction comments personally. Its not like you take it once or twice and your addicted. Even then smoking and taking nicotine as a supplement are two completly different things.

Anyway, here is some info I have in an ebook.

Although it?s gotten a pretty bad rap, it?s
not such a bad compound when used for a
specific purpose. I?m not talking about
taking up smoking here, or starting up
anything like that. I?m not even talking
about tobacco; I?m talking about the active
ingredient in tobacco- which is nicotine.

I?ve seen some studies where it is estimated that nicotine can boost your metabolism by roughly 10%, and personally, I?ve used it both systemically as well as in a transdermal carrier, and find that it?s very useful on a diet, both as a stimulant, fat loss agent, and cognitive enhancer. In fact, I think that nicotine is a pretty potent cognitive 65 enhancer.

The Nicotinic systems in the hippocampus play important roles in memory function, and in fact, a reduced nicotinic receptor concentration is associated with severe cognitive impairment, like that seen with
schizophrenia and Alzheimer’s disease.

Nicotine and nicotinic agonists are strongly and positively correlated with improved memory function, and even have a strong anti-depressant effect.

Nicotine will have the additional effect of diminishing your appetite, which is a huge benefit when on a diet, as well as having some degree of aromatase inhibiting effects. Yes, I?m saying that the aromatase enzyme is actually inhibited by nicotine, and this can occur locally (via a transdermal cream or
something to that effect) as well as systemically via another route.