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Next Cycle - EQ, Test E or C, Primo Depot, Dbol


#1

hi there

Im looking at going on my 3rd cycle in a few weeks time. So i am doing some research and getting some ideas on the cycle. My last cycle was Deca, Test E, Sustanon, Dbol... Due to poor PCT and recovery I lost all of my gains. Im hoping with the new cycle and a better PCT that I retain most of my gains. I also like the fact that EQ increases appetite allot. I do eat allot normally.

Potential Cycle (8 weeks)

I plan on doing 2 x 8 week cycles as opposed to 1 x 12/16 week cycle. There will be an off period in between the cycles equivalent to the length (8 weeks off).

Equipoise @ 400MG Per week
Test E or Test C @ 750MG Per week
Primobolan Depot @ 300MG per week (nice to enhance the cycle)
Dbol @ 30mg daily for 2 weeks OR 20mg daily for 3 weeks (some might say to do it throughout but i think with the other components of this cycle, i wouldnt want to over stress my system).

Potential PCT

HCG throughout cycle and 3 weeks after last shot @ 500mg E3D ...would like some advice here?
Nolvadex (60mg on day 1, then 40mg for 10 days, then 20mg for 5 days, 10mgs for 5 days)
Clomid (300mgs on day 1, then 50mg for 10 days, then 20mg for 5 days, 10mg for 5 days)
HGH throughout cycle and throughout PCT at 4ius EOD

anyway thats what i have so far. Any constructive advice would be appreciated.

My stats:
Training naturally for 15 years
Height 1.75m, Current Weight 85kg
2 previous cycles (Dbol, Test E, Winny, Clen and similar PCT to above - kept 5kg of my gains..was up to 90kg) & (Deca, Dbol, Test E, Sustanon, with only HCG 3 week blitz and Clomid therapy...lost most of the gains with this one, including gains from previous cycle)...I hope to get my gains back and retain them.

thanks guys!


#2

any comments or suggestions?


#3

So you are running a short cycle...with compounds that all have long esters? Sounds like a waste of money..

If I were you I would spend the money on 20ml of test prop and the rest on tren ace and run a low test-high tren cycle..keep the gh if you want.

Im under the impression that hcg should not be run into pct, and I do not believe that 3 weeks would be optimal for an 8 week cycle..


#4

hey Mr. Walkway.

Yep i get what you saying about long esters not being good for shorter cycles. With that said i might take your advice and use Test Prop instead of Test E. I have been avoiding Tren and Deca because of the way it shuts one down. However, on my longer cycles i noticed results in the 4 and 6 weeks then only grew slightly thereafter...so im hoping with an 8 week (slower) cycle that i will get some negligible results by week 6 and slightly more by week 8 then PCT. Going for quality gains rather than quantity.