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Newbie Cycle Help

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#1

This will be my 1st cycle. I am 31, weight 215lbs@12.5% BF +/- and have been training for alomst 10 years. I like the idea of shorter cycles and I really want to make sure I stay healthy in the long term. Here is my plan:

Wk1-2: Deca 500mg, EQ 600mg, Oral Turanibol 20mg ED
Wk3-4: EQ 600mg
Wk 5-6: nothing since above esters will be very active.
Wk 7: oral Primo 60mg ED
Wk 8: oral Primo 40mg ED, 100mg Clomid ED

Wk 9, 10: Clomid 50mg ED, Nolva 20mg ED
Wk 11: 20mg Nolva ED
Wk 12: 10mg Nolva ED

Would that work well? I would wait at least 10 more weeks (after the PCT) before I cycled again. Would I be able to maintain my gains taking that much time off bettween cycles? Thanks in advance for the advice…

#2

[quote]gettinbigger wrote:
This will be my 1st cycle. I am 31, weight 215lbs@12.5% BF +/- and have been training for alomst 10 years. I like the idea of shorter cycles and I really want to make sure I stay healthy in the long term. Here is my plan:

Wk1-2: Deca 500mg, EQ 600mg, Oral Turanibol 20mg ED
Wk3-4: EQ 600mg
Wk 5-6: nothing since above esters will be very active.
Wk 7: oral Primo 60mg ED
Wk 8: oral Primo 40mg ED, 100mg Clomid ED

Wk 9, 10: Clomid 50mg ED, Nolva 20mg ED
Wk 11: 20mg Nolva ED
Wk 12: 10mg Nolva ED

Would that work well? I would wait at least 10 more weeks (after the PCT) before I cycled again. Would I be able to maintain my gains taking that much time off bettween cycles? Thanks in advance for the advice…[/quote]

Those drugs aren’t really suited for short cycles. IMO, you wouldn’t get that much out of that cycle. Consider NPP if you really had decca in mind.

#3

Your probably expecting this but is there a reason there is no test?

#4

Actually I’m just trying to work with the stuff I have. A good friend recently decided to quit after he got busted by the DEA about a year ago. He gave me what he had left (that they didn’t find)to do with what I will. That included:

40cc EQ @200mg/cc
30cc Deca @250mg/cc
100+/- Dbol @5mg ea.
150+/- OT @10mg ea.
500 Oral Primo @10mg ea. (paper)

I really have no interest in selling anything,especially after my boy got busted so I figured I’d give it a go and use it myself.

Other than that, I also want to try to be at least a little sympathetic to my hair line that had started to thin in my old age…so I figured avoiding test might be important. I figure if I have any problems getting it up while on EQ and Deca i’ll just hit some D-bol as needed.

#5

[quote]Zell959 wrote:
Those drugs aren’t really suited for short cycles. IMO, you wouldn’t get that much out of that cycle. Consider NPP if you really had decca in mind.
[/quote]

Yea…I figured it wouldn’t be optimal given the long acting esters, but I am very concerned about my HPTA health/recovery and I’ve heard horror stories from some people on longer cycles (16 wks) about never fully recovering thier natural test, etc.

so I wanted to keep it under 8 weeks give or take just to be on the safe side. i was actually thinking of ditching the Deca since its so supressive.