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New York Times Op-Ed

Hopefully this cut and paste job works, I found it an interesting read:

The News We Kept to Ourselves

ATLANTA ? Over the last dozen years I made 13 trips to Baghdad to lobby the government to keep CNN’s Baghdad bureau open and to arrange interviews with Iraqi leaders. Each time I visited, I became more distressed by what I saw and heard ? awful things that could not be reported because doing so would have jeopardized the lives of Iraqis, particularly those on our Baghdad staff.

For example, in the mid-1990’s one of our Iraqi cameramen was abducted. For weeks he was beaten and subjected to electroshock torture in the basement of a secret police headquarters because he refused to confirm the government’s ludicrous suspicion that I was the Central Intelligence Agency’s Iraq station chief. CNN had been in Baghdad long enough to know that telling the world about the torture of one of its employees would almost certainly have gotten him killed and put his family and co-workers at grave risk.

Working for a foreign news organization provided Iraqi citizens no protection. The secret police terrorized Iraqis working for international press services who were courageous enough to try to provide accurate reporting. Some vanished, never to be heard from again. Others disappeared and then surfaced later with whispered tales of being hauled off and tortured in unimaginable ways. Obviously, other news organizations were in the same bind we were when it came to reporting on their own workers.

We also had to worry that our reporting might endanger Iraqis not on our payroll. I knew that CNN could not report that Saddam Hussein’s eldest son, Uday, told me in 1995 that he intended to assassinate two of his brothers-in-law who had defected and also the man giving them asylum, King Hussein of Jordan. If we had gone with the story, I was sure he would have responded by killing the Iraqi translator who was the only other participant in the meeting. After all, secret police thugs brutalized even senior officials of the Information Ministry, just to keep them in line (one such official has long been missing all his fingernails).

Still, I felt I had a moral obligation to warn Jordan’s monarch, and I did so the next day. King Hussein dismissed the threat as a madman’s rant. A few months later Uday lured the brothers-in-law back to Baghdad; they were soon killed.

I came to know several Iraqi officials well enough that they confided in me that Saddam Hussein was a maniac who had to be removed. One Foreign Ministry officer told me of a colleague who, finding out his brother had been executed by the regime, was forced, as a test of loyalty, to write a letter of congratulations on the act to Saddam Hussein. An aide to Uday once told me why he had no front teeth: henchmen had ripped them out with pliers and told him never to wear dentures, so he would always remember the price to be paid for upsetting his boss. Again, we could not broadcast anything these men said to us.

Last December, when I told Information Minister Muhammad Said al-Sahhaf that we intended to send reporters to Kurdish-controlled northern Iraq, he warned me they would “suffer the severest possible consequences.” CNN went ahead, and in March, Kurdish officials presented us with evidence that they had thwarted an armed attack on our quarters in Erbil. This included videotaped confessions of two men identifying themselves as Iraqi intelligence agents who said their bosses in Baghdad told them the hotel actually housed C.I.A. and Israeli agents. The Kurds offered to let us interview the suspects on camera, but we refused, for fear of endangering our staff in Baghdad.

Then there were the events that were not unreported but that nonetheless still haunt me. A 31-year-old Kuwaiti woman, Asrar Qabandi, was captured by Iraqi secret police occupying her country in 1990 for “crimes,” one of which included speaking with CNN on the phone. They beat her daily for two months, forcing her father to watch. In January 1991, on the eve of the American-led offensive, they smashed her skull and tore her body apart limb by limb. A plastic bag containing her body parts was left on the doorstep of her family’s home.

I felt awful having these stories bottled up inside me. Now that Saddam Hussein’s regime is gone, I suspect we will hear many, many more gut-wrenching tales from Iraqis about the decades of torment. At last, these stories can be told freely.

Eason Jordan is chief news executive at CNN

Bump for Say, iscaralot etc…

Isn’t this where you denounce this as “Right-wing propaganda”?



Creative reporting?

False reports that are spread to justify this unlawful invasion?


We’re waiting…

“No one lies so boldly as the man who is indignant”

~ Friedrich Nietzsche

Mr. Jordan was on TV tonight basically saying the same things.

As if the people dancing in the streets isn’t enough evidence.

Cupcake, this “illegal invasion” was Necessary dammit. We gave Saddam all kinds of time to get the hell out of office but he refused. War sucks, it’s dirty, bloody and immoral. But there is a whole population of Americans who are trained to do this type of business so you don’t have to. Saddam was going to do some shady shit, either through funding terrorists or by doing fucked up shit himself.

His people suffered. They don’t have to anymore. We are the direct result of a a nation being liberated. We did it humanely, qiuckly, and completely by the book. I’m proud.

Mr. Jordans’ report only helps SOLIDIFY what we knew all along.
Saddams’ regime was sick and evil, and his sons’ tenure only promised to be worse.

I’ll shut up after I quote my favorite t-shirt.
“All I want is Peace in the Middle East… and a blowjob”


Brother, you must have me confused with a Liberal. I will let it go this time but as it makes me feel dirty, please do not do it again…re-read!

“Read over your compositions, and when you meet a passage which you think is particularly fine, strike it out”

~ Samuel Johnson

No protesters or “Liberals” against his war are in support of Saddam Hussein.

But just in case, if we dont find any WMD we should reinsert Saddam back into power.


Install a puppet governor with less than 2% of popular support, get him to sign oil contracts, and then don’t raise a single dollar towards the rebuilding of the nation.

Just like Afghanistan.

Enjoy your pipeline.

My bad fellas…


Write AFTER… gotcha



Clearly we should have left him in power. Such a nice man, reminds me of the good old days when Stalin was “the Man”.
I am not a big fan of the sheites or the kurds either. They themselves are assholes. Definately we should not let one of those groups take power or everybody who is not muslim will be dead.

In case it hasn’t been pointed out to you, if you and the rest of the bad people had had your way, saddam would still be in power. Aren’t you secretly glad that we took care of business? Isn’t it nice to have the big, strong United States protect Canada?
Oh, if anyone had listened to you, innocent people would still be in the process of being killed and tortured. Now that the war is over, I want you to think about how many lives have been saved in the long run. Go ahead, admit it, you are wrong.
I want to redirect you to my response in the michael moore thread. I responded directly to you yesterday. I am having fun reading your posts.

Its funny how not many people responded to this thread. How bout the say the CNN reporter gave the Iraqi UN representative a hug before he left. Would he give Bush a hug? Why didnt the Iraqi guy give Foxnews a hug?


Did you catch the former CNN reporter on Foxnews last night? He said that he had gone up to northern Iraq (some years ago) to investigate claims that U.S. planes had killed a bunch of civilians. It turned out to be totally false, but CNN wouldn’t air the piece because they were hoping to get an interview with Saddam.

thats sad. thats why i only watch foxnews.