[quote]Cowboy_69 wrote:
Hellfrost wrote:
Cowboy_69 wrote:
dirtbag wrote:
I am sick of running around being afraid of offending people based on what I say cause I am white. Big fucking deal. I say we preserve our country and culture. Not based on religion but based on what we as North Americans or Europeans believe it to be.
Fuckin A brother. Fuckin
A. Couldn`t agree more with ya.
Anyone else agree, disagree or have an opinion to state?
There is a fine line between respectfully disagreeing with someone and being an asshole, going up in arms in your bravado of defending your “religion” when no one is threatening it and blaming everyone else is stupid. You are not offending anyone, but when you act like thats holding you back and start putting others down, that’s when you become an asshole.
What is wrong with one religion having more followers then the other? Like Otep mentioned having a fit for who has the more followers is retarded.
Cowboy_69 you seemed like a nice person, but when you said “I ask you again: the statistics don`t bother you?” You just proved to me that you are the biggest asshole here. Why should the statistics bother anyone? What’s wrong with one culture growing more then the other one?
Here is a word for you; “ethnocentrism” look it up.
A.) I am not Christian. Nor do I follow any organized religion. Read my posts above. I am not in ANY way interested with the RELIGIOUS STANCE the video pushes. If anything, I view organized religion as a main perpretator of long-lasting world problems (and in particular Christianity/Islam/Judaism, all three of the same root); but that is discussion fit for another thread.
B.) Ethnocentrism is SPECIFICALLY the problem at hand here, Hellfrost. You say you are of Muslim descent but decided against following that line of thought. May I be so bold as to ask why? Because the Numero Uno problem facing European cities heavily populated with Muslim peoples is SPECIFICALLY their overbearing tendency to NOT want to mix with others, vehemently REJECT other cultures (domestic or otherwise) and ultimately prove to be unwilling to peacefully co-habit.
C.) You repeatedly referring to me as an asshole when I am encouraging an open debate is at once amusing and base.
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A) Agreed.
B) I am Albanian; Albania was invaded and conquered by the Ottoman empire in the 14th century, thus bringing in their religion and culture. Yup, the entire country is Muslim, plain and simple. However, we “Chose” not to practice the religion, sure it was forced on us, but no one really cares right now. The majority of Albanians today are either atheists or agnostics. According to an official US Government Report: “No reliable data were available on active participation in formal religious services, but estimates ranged from 25 to 40 percent.,” leaving 60 to 75 percent of the population non-religious (or, at least, not practicing a religion in public).
We have no problem co-existing with anyone. Sure there are some family traditions frowning upon certain mixes, but which grandparents over 80+ years old approve of certain mixes in any family? I have lived in many places in Europe, I have never encountered the type of behavior that you are suggesting related to the religion the person believed in.
C) Correction, I only called you an asshole once, I called the other guy an asshole once as well, even share I was hoping.
Dirtbag, you did not grow up with the same values that your father did, and neither did your father grew up with the values your grandparents did. Things change, there is no way around it, but thinking that everything will change with a blink of an eye then you are mistaken. Trust me, the last thing that would happen would be the destruction of the American culture because of a few immigrants.
Also you must forgive my lack of better curse words, English being my third language does not make me very creative. =]