[quote]1 Man Island wrote:
Coming from a guy that lost 140 lbs…
Protein isn’t as important as T Nation thinks (it’s basically a bodybuilding and supplement site, so that’s expected)… don’t eat anything packaged and don’t go out to eat and a lot of it (not all) will work itself out. You might not make that meal next time when you realize you dumped a half stick of butter in the dish. Protein is important, but a lot of people use it to justify eating things like bacon, etc.
NEPA (Non Exercise Physical Activity) is just as important as your routine. Go for an hour a day. A lot of people will go for walks for this, but I find that kind of boring. You’re probably better off doing something like cleaning, because you probably need to clean anyway. I used to spend 30-45 minutes every other day washing my clothes in a bucket (no machine/laundrymat/money), and I think it really helped out my shoulders (A wet pair of pants weights what? 10-15 lbs? x 15-20 reps x each pair of pants is pretty decent).
That being said… the advice above my post is solid and you won’t go wrong listening to it, but there are different approaches. Sustainability is the key (which also means slower gains).
Chris Colucci does give solid advice, that’s a given. As far as the rest of what you’ve said, protein is not that important and people use that to justify eating bacon? Yet, in your own log you advocate eating a PB sandwich for breakfast??? And that physical activity should be increased by cleaning because wet pants weigh X# of pounds? That is not good advice.
Protein builds muscle. PB sandwiches do not.[/quote]
Generally solid advice above for weight loss purposes though. Any increase in activity level is a good thing if all you’re doing is sitting all day. Even the lame stuff like “park your car at the far side of the parking lot so you can walk” does work.
But that being said, this is a strength/bodybuilding oriented site, and weightloss for the sake of weightloss isn’t really the focus.
Quote from "1 Man Island"s log
If you are eating for strength AND weightloss, protein is a necessary component. I recommend that in addition to losing weight, you work to put on muscle. That will require protein.[/quote]
If you subscribe to the all calories are equal philosophy, that would be true. Protein is essential for weight loss as it preserves lean muscle mass, muscle requires more calories so you’re burning more calories which, in turn, helps you get lean and stay that way. Not to mention that protein is just more filling and curbs the cravings to overeat. If someone dieting doesn’t eat enough protein, it begins to break down muscle tissue instead. Then you end up with the flabby or skinny fat look. We all know the fat person that eats once a day. If you watch what they eat, I’ve seen very few eat adequate protein - mostly just carb type foods.
I totally understand your point about reducing calories LoRez, totally, but you have to keep in mind where those calories come from also. The walking further from your car thing and cleaning your house I understand also and it’s something we all should do but I wouldn’t advise that for weight loss unless someone was extremely obese and wasn’t able to perform weight training or cardio at that point.
Didn’t mean to get off topic at all but I have a hard time wrapping my head around PB sandwiches and washing pants as activities that are going to give someone tangible results.[/quote]
No worries about getting off topic now. Guy’s no longer here.
That makes sense about the protein. I’ve both gained and lost weight on a high-protein diet, with no real change in LBM. The only difference for me was just total calorie intake… but again, I was getting a ton of protein.
I keep forgetting that a lot of people are high-carb, low-protein.
And I agree, PB sandwiches and clothes washing aren’t going to do much. Although, 14-hour days washing clothes down by the river on a washboard that would do the job.
Sounds like the guy was just looking for a quick fix though. I almost feel bad for him, for not knowing any better. Little gradual changes might do better for him.