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New Pledge of Allegiance

"Now I sit me down in school

Where praying is against the rule
For this great nation under God
Finds mention of Him very odd.

If Scripture now the class recites,
It violates the Bill of Rights.
And anytime my head I bow
Becomes a Federal matter now.

Our hair can be purple, orange or green,
That’s no offense; it’s a freedom scene.
The law is specific, the law is precise.
Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice.

For praying in a public hall
Might offend someone with no faith at all.
In silence alone we must meditate,
God’s name is prohibited by the state.

We’re allowed to cuss and dress like freaks,
And pierce our noses, tongues and cheeks.
They’ve outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible.
To quote the Good Book makes me liable.

We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen,
And the ‘unwed daddy,’ our Senior King.
It’s ‘inappropriate’ to teach right from wrong,
We’re taught that such ‘judgments’ do not belong.

We can get our condoms and birth controls,
Study witchcraft, vampires and totem poles.
But the Ten Commandments are not allowed,
No word of God must reach this crowd.

It’s scary here I must confess,
When chaos reigns the school’s a mess.
So, Lord, this silent plea I make:
Should I be shot; My soul please take!
Amen"

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

If Scripture now the class recites,
It violates the Bill of Rights.[/quote]

Really?

Praying is allowed you twat. The school just can’t sponsor it.

This shit is idiotic <_<. And most of it is perfectly acceptable. The bibles is 90% trash anyway, not the kind of stuff kinds should be learning about outside of a literature course.

Please tell me you didn’t write that, HH!
If you did, you’re a shitty poet.

lol

Why does anyone with any intelligence think pledging their allegiance to any idea is a good thing to do?

Think about what is actually being said in the pledge. It is completely unAmerican to pledge to anything.

This was supposed to be a country of free people instead it’s full of robots ready to obey orders. Sad!

[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Praying is allowed you twat. The school just can’t sponsor it.

This shit is idiotic <_<. And most of it is perfectly acceptable. The bibles is 90% trash anyway, not the kind of stuff kinds should be learning about outside of a literature course.[/quote]

The schools (in Ohio) can’t allow it on the grounds. Christian kids can’t form up and pray before a game. Christians can’t meet in an unused classromm and pray.

Allowance is made, however, so Muslim students can flop out a prayer rug and worship Allah. “We must be tolerant, musn’t we?” Of course, the Christian kids wouldn’t strap on a vest.

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Why does anyone with any intelligence think pledging their allegiance to any idea is a good thing to do?

Think about what is actually being said in the pledge. It is completely unAmerican to pledge to anything.

This was supposed to be a country of free people instead it’s full of robots ready to obey orders. Sad![/quote]

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. �?? And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

Yeah, those Founding Fathers were a bunch of dumbasses.

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Yeah, those Founding Fathers were a bunch of dumbasses.
[/quote]
Platitudes and rhetoric is all it is.

Their dream is dead.

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
SteelyD wrote:
Yeah, those Founding Fathers were a bunch of dumbasses.

Platitudes and rhetoric is all it is.

Their dream is dead.
[/quote]

Hmmm…anything else like that you’d like to cavalierly dismiss?

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
SteelyD wrote:
Yeah, those Founding Fathers were a bunch of dumbasses.

Platitudes and rhetoric is all it is.

Their dream is dead.

Hmmm…anything else like that you’d like to cavalierly dismiss?

[/quote]
I do not like the idea that I can dismiss it. I was brainwashed on those ideas my entire life. I joined the USMC because of those ideas.

Fealty to a nation is no life for free people. Nationality is not freedom.

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
SteelyD wrote:
Yeah, those Founding Fathers were a bunch of dumbasses.

Platitudes and rhetoric is all it is.

Their dream is dead.

Hmmm…anything else like that you’d like to cavalierly dismiss?

I do not like the idea that I can dismiss it. I was brainwashed on those ideas my entire life. I joined the USMC because of those ideas.

Fealty to a nation is no life for free people. Nationality is not freedom.[/quote]

Didn’t it occur to you that the peace and security you enjoy is a result of people who swear to a common idea, who swear fealty to an idea?

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Didn’t it occur to you…?
[/quote]

It used to but then I learned better.

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Didn’t it occur to you…?

It used to but then I learned better.[/quote]

It just seems odd to benefir from something you denounce — like taking out a gov’t loan while denouncing gov’t loans.

Oh dear… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion-related_violence#Arson.2C_bombing.2C_and_property_crime

If it was the Qu’ran instead of your own holy book that was being peddled from the school podium, I doubt you would be so offended by the separation of church and state.

[quote]forlife wrote:
If it was the Qu’ran instead of your own holy book that was being peddled from the school podium, I doubt you would be so offended by the separation of church and state.[/quote]

Touche.

[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Praying is allowed you twat. The school just can’t sponsor it.

This shit is idiotic <_<. And most of it is perfectly acceptable. The bibles is 90% trash anyway, not the kind of stuff kinds should be learning about outside of a literature course.[/quote]

You should rethink your words and come off like a douche bag. Wars have started over lesser words, and apparently you haven’t been dealt with life and death situation. There are no atheists in fox holes. Learn some English while you are at it, your pronunciation is horrible, you probably cant even read the Bible.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
There are no atheists in fox holes. [/quote]

How do you know?

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
There are no atheists in fox holes.

How do you know?[/quote]

God told him.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Didn’t it occur to you…?

It used to but then I learned better.

It just seems odd to benefir from something you denounce — like taking out a gov’t loan while denouncing gov’t loans.

[/quote]

Not if its the only game in town.