Hey, I just ended to this topic.
I just wanted to share some information considering my TRT with nebido with some lab results, whether it helps or not…
in August 2010 I had ended to the point where I felt weak and tired all the time, and sex drive which was quite big some years ago, was very much lost. I was… 26 at the time. So I visited the doc, we took some tests and it all led to discovering that my testosterone-values were quite low-end. Especially for a guy on my age. So doctor first recommended that if I wanted to we could try testosterone treatment with some initial tests for the cause of the low-t (which revealed that my situation will be permanent for natural low levels, lets just say it’s testicle related).
I also weighted 68kg at 178cm at the time, and I’m a man. He prescribed me testo-gel and said that if all goes well with it, then I may have a chance to go for nebido in December 2010. My levels at this point before any treatment were (now I apologize if you don’t use same “units”): S-Testo - 12nmol/l (min 10 - max 38), S-TestoVL 227pmol/l (min 200 - max 580) and S-SHBG
(19nmol/l (min 13 - max 71). Considering S-TestoVL, I think the VL part translates into (Free, Calculated))
After using the testo-gel for some months tests were taken in 29.10.2010 and came out as following: S-Testo 21, S-TestoVL 442, S-SHBG 13. I got the green light to start Nebido after I had used the remaining gel. It was prescribed to be taken between every 8 to 10 weeks (instead of the regular 12 week interval).
If I recall right, I got initial shot of Nebido 1000mg and then 4 or 5 weeks another booster shot, after which I got to take anew every 8 to 10 weeks. I started getting sex drive up quite fast, lost most of my anxiety and generally felt quite much more energized very soon. In the first year I felt so much better that I bought some dumbbells and barbell to home and started working out (like a rookie). I gained weight from 68 to 74 during the first year.
From 74 to 77 during the second. But it took me quite a while to get myself into the gym, where I have been training a full year 3x a week (full body workout now). Me I never liked the gym before, because I felt so anxious and low on energy, but after Nebido I’ve found new energy and enjoy the gym now! Just need to learn to get better and work out harder. Now I weight about 80kg even, and I know that ain’t much, but I feel so much better and healthier already than on 68kg.
I know that perhaps some people may bash me for going for steroids/TRT before really working out before, but I’d like to say that my situation to get testosterone-treatment wasn’t gym related in the first place. I went to doc because I generally felt weak, tired, and my sex drive was really lacking for a guy at 26’s. But getting my mood and all better has influenced me starting gym as a hobby, though it took a while. I hit the gym first time (for real) only at last year August 2012 (working out home prior to that), while my TRT treatment had started in late 2010.
Only problem lately has been slightly elevated B-HKR (hematocrit-value), which has risen from 49-50 to 52 in early this year (I was in for some blood-test for different reasons at April). My doc says that everything is ok if HKR stays at 53 maximum, but over that there is a problem.
Now I’d like to share my lab results how Nebido has increased my testosterone-levels over the years since the beginning:
-Interval between the shots: 8 to 10 weeks (usually I’ve been taking shots at 8 weeks, though last year sometimes at 9th or 10th week)
-lab results taken at 4th week (which means they should describe the “high point” of the levels at each period between the shots)
-I have not used any other form of roids combined with Nebido similarly
S-Testo (nmol/l) min 10 - max 38:
12 (10.08.2010) *natural levels
21 (29.10.2010) *on testo-gel
23 (8.3.2011) *finally on Nebido
16 (6.6.2011) *exceptionally results taken on 8th week right before a new shot, to see how low values sink!
S-TestoVL (pmol/l) min 200 - max 580:
227 (10.08.2010) *natural levels
442 (29.10.2010) *on testo-gel
443 (8.3.2011) *finally on Nebido
304 (6.6.2011) *exceptionally results taken on 8th week right before a new shot, to see how low values sink!
670 (30.11.2012) *my doc said that this isn’t too high value for to be “high point” of one interval, but stated that I could now start taking the shots at 9 or 10 weeks interval
S-SHBG (nmol/l) min 13 - max 71:
19 (10.08.2010) *natural levels
13 (29.10.2010) *on testo-gel
18 (8.3.2011) *finally on Nebido
19 (6.6.2011) *exceptionally results taken on 8th week right before a new shot, to see how low values sink!
Now I’m about to take new blood tests for this year within two to three months, and I can update them here if I remember. I hope that these lab tests may provide some value for some readers. Though, they only present the varying interval of shots between 8 to 10 weeks…
I can’t think anything really bad. I used to be overly calm person. I do get mad little easier sometimes but I wouldn’t really say it’s rage beyond anything normal. But I see a slight change here. Perhaps very slight acne on shoulders, but nothing really big enough to bother. I recommend taking the shot split in two shot to both of the glutes (Â½ each) as at least for me it reduced pain (it wasn’t that big anyway, but still).