Those numbers are insane. No wonder you ballooned up. You would have had a nice rack, if you kept going 
I assume you have been reading and by know know just how far off base your doctor is. He was messing you up fast. Long term high E2 will do you a lot of harm. Short term it is just an annoying education.
Now do not go the other way Zero E2, it messes you up just as bad. Get on the standard protocol and hang out a while.
Ok thanks, i have a specialist I will be going to soon that my mother uses, shes low T also. But appointment is not until a month, so will monitor this on my own and follow the 50mg x2.
Good you need to settle down and do the same thing for a while, 50mg twice a week is good. Short term you do not need to worry that much about HCG. When you are changing everything it is impossible to tell what needs to be adjusted
I love you man lol During all this and all the forums i tried, you were only one there to reply. (Thats not the estrogen in me talking), I seriously thought i was going crazy and possibly die. My doctor admitted he knows very little about T so he is not going to be one that I see for T. He wrote a script for 400mg(2ml) and a script for cream, i never filled the cream script due to huge price difference. And he wrote like 5 refills of both, so now i have like 2 years of tetosterone c, and 2 years of cream refills available. I took a total of 4 doses of 400mg every 2 weeks, started this sept 1. I now have way more T available to me than i need right now, which is good thing. But he said if in 1 month i cant get my e2 level normal he wont give me anymore estrogen blocker. Which is ***** ???. My mother has a natural path Dr who is very informed on male and female hormones and out of pocket only charges 180 for first visit(hour) and 80 for rest of visits(45 mins) with no insurance. He does write scripts for estrogen blockers and lets people self inject. My mother is a former natural body builder and competed in past and at 68 years old looks fantastic and does personal training, so i trust her judgement. I have had hard hard time losing weight, tired all the time, havent slept well in 16 years and low sex drive but no sexual disfunction. My wife asked me 6 months ago, âI know you dont have any problems having sex, but we only do have sex like 3 times a yearâ). I used to race my camaro at track in early 2000s then it became too much work, I was in Army in Ranger unit from 85-90 then went into reserves for 2. Was the picture of health, now I am over weight, always tired. I thought this TRT could be the thing I needed to make me myself again. I will not give up from this bad experience, bad isnât even right word(horrible). I just turned 50 Monday, so I need to change my life around now. Thanks again, just wanted you to get a little background info on me. I think I just freaked out when Dr said my T level was 96, did what he said without research(which I always do). Now I know better and have been spreading to word around because I know, many men donât talk about low T.
When you get a full set of labs make sure you bring them here. KSman really knows that stuff. As do some of the other guys. Getting my testosterone levels right has worked wonders for me. The fat just stated falling off and muscles want to grow again. Make sure you take your temperature, morning noon and night. See if it is only trt and not thyroid. I started taking Iodine and selenium and my temps went up a little as did my metabolism. Read the info here, it is a gold mine and it is free. You will get your drive back, your wife might even ask you slow down a bit.
KSman puts a lot of time into this place. You would think he was paid, but it is just a pass time with him. I think you just slipped by him. Or maybe his wife said get off that damn computer and put all that good health into your wife. The guys here are great
Hey, Iâve been reading about ur struggles the last day. Decided to join the forum and discuss⊠The doctor you have def has no idea what they r doing. I started trt 6 weeks ago and it was life changing. I had been battling severe depression and insane weight gain and weight loss⊠I tired many medications and they made things much worse. Iâd go to the gym and work my ass off and yet never gain.I finally got blood work and found my test at 200. I decided to jump on Trt.
I didnât notice anything for the first 4 weeks but then I realized I wasnât angry and I hadnât broke out randomly crying in an anxiety panic as often as I used to. This is my 6th week and I wake up feeling ready to go. My emotions have completely changed. I no longer cry randomly, I no longer dwell on sad thoughts. Even when I do I now can see what is going on and change my thought. Keep up on the trt and it will pay off⊠U needa get the estrogen in check. I have mine for now checked every 2 weeks.
I will not give up. I feel so much better now it is unbelievable, just taking the estrogen blocker. The last few days I have had some of the best sleep of my life. I think I have had low T and higher E for many years. Thursday next week I will start the 50mg 2x a week cycle. I know itâs going to take awhile to get labs right. Thanks for all the support, I am ready to work again finally. Once I get labs I will post here, I am just waiting until I know my E has came down more.
Another issue when i was injecting 2ml of T, it was very difficult to inject, I had to use a tremendous amount of force to push all that Test C through the syring. Made giving the injection very difficult, I had to hold the syring steady and try to slowing inject all that T with other hand. A few times I thought the syring would break. Must have been from vacuum pressure with such large amount. Tonight I started the 50mg, but then just realized i messed up(I did 1/2 on syring) which is 100mg since 2ml is 400mg, so next injection with do 1/4 mark and get into the 50x2 routine. Was really easy to inject though.
Warm it up first and the oil will be thinner. Make sure your free hand is at the base so you can put pressure on it. Inject slowly
I have been on 100mg a week now, messed up first week and injected a 1/2 cc but was 100mg, so I waited a week and injected 1/4 cc(50mg) and this morning is 3.5 days, so injecting another 50mg in a.m, I have been taking .50 Anastrozole with each injection. I am thinking my dose may need to come up, my mindâs clear, feel OK, sleep is OK, not great, but OK, skin is still silky smooth from the oil in it, lol. Sex drive about a 1/4 of what it was last week, slight energy boost, but nothing worth noting. I am taking baby steps now, I have the 400mg every 2 weeks to adjust if needed and lots of refills. So in a few days, will get some basic labs done to get a idea where I am at before changing anything. Pharmacy gave me a box of 100 syringeâs and needles, so I am good for a long time. I started taking calcium and magnesium and vitamin D supplement. I work graveyards, so sun is a rare thing lol. Most the water weight came off, but thinking my estrogen might still need to come down, will see with new lab. Once I get that all stable I can do a full test and post here for help.
With the thyroid, checking temps, I am really unsure if the time when doing it would work for me. Since 1992 I have worked graveyards(11pm-7:15am) so my awake and sleep pattern is all over the place. I also forgot to mention, a few years ago I had kidney stones, when doing the scan the Dr said I had a growth on my adrenal gland, but he said(Endo) that it canât be removed being the adrenal is so small, so if I have a issue with it affecting my adrenal it would need removed(adrenal gland) but he said it appears benign, but no way to take sample since adrenal is so small.
I did get basic labs done, came back today. I didnt do free T being I wanted to get levels in range before doing higher cost tests. I am curently on 50mg test c, every 3.5 days and .50 anastrozole with each injection. Will post what i have: Tetosterone serum 1109, Estridol 30.4, sLH .2 , FSH .2 Hematocrit 48.8, AST 21, ALT 25 thats all i have on list until i get more in debth test, has a lot of other things on there, but i went by list to post. Lapcorp shows all within range except LH ans FSH, shows low.
Glad you are on the forum rv700a.
We like to keep one thread for a guyâs case.
So we encourage you to create a thread for your case.
See you there.
E2=30 is a bit high, target is near E2=22pg/ml
How long on âstandard protocolâ for this lab work?
Wondering if we should consider anastrozole dose change, was there enough time, is this E2 drag over from your prior dosing? Otherwise new dose = 0.5 X 20/22
Testing LH/FSH is now a waste, avoid $$$
Will always -->zero on TRT. [If FSH does not, then testicular cancer is suggested.]
I have only been on 50mg every 3.5 days for a week, I did this test 1 day before my 3rd injection was due. The week before that, i made a mistake and injected 100mg, so i waited a week to start this. That labcorp test is a online package deal for under $70. It could be drag over, being i really just got back to a normal schedule, i am so happy to not see 137 estrogen like last test lol. I will do a more in depth test in 2 weeks. I see a few other things at top of scale and all I looked up said b12 might be reason. Do you suggest b12?
I did another lab, waiting on results. Some things I have noticed on TRT, chronic pain is much better. I had a mid back pain for 10+ years, now itâs much better. My right shoulder I thought I had a torn rotator cuff and could feel/hear cracking shound in shoulder joint, that pain is now 100% gone and cracking/pop is much reduced. My arms look much more defined, really amazing and shoulders. Skin softer(from oil), hair seems to grow quicker. I used to get up 5-8 times a night to use bathroom, now at most 1 time. Sleep has greatly improved, mind seems clearer, sex drive is great. Think that covers the good. Bad things: reduced sensitivity during sex, seems like I feel more tired now and less motivated to do things and minor water retention. After these labs I can make changes. I just went on a major diet also.
My Hemocrit etc was high on labs, just past max high range, so I went and donated blood. Odd thing on lab work, my T Level was around 450 and Estrogen 25, last time my T was over double that.
