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New Medal for Drone Pilots

Higher than a Bronze Star? Interesting and I can’t say that I agree with that.

james

Why shouldn’t they be given medals?
In the Porn industry, guys have always been given recognition for also working their joysticks behind closed doors.

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[quote]Karado wrote:
Why shouldn’t they be given medals?
In the Porn industry, guys have always been given recognition for also working their joysticks behind closed doors.[/quote]

I didn’t say that. I said that they shouldn’t be given a medal higher than a Bronze Star which is a medal given for valor in combat where you are actually risking life and limb not just carpal tunnel.

james

And I say they should be awarded no “medals” whatsoever.
Why? Because they’re not fucking “Pilots” in the traditional sense in the first place.
Promotions maybe, raises maybe, but not fucking medals…not for working in a protected and sequestered environment Stateside.

[quote]Karado wrote:
And I say they should be awarded no “medals” whatsoever.
Why? Because they’re not fucking “Pilots” in the traditional sense in the first place.
Promotions maybe, raises maybe, but not fucking medals…not for working in a protected and sequestered environment Stateside.
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It’s an extension of the ‘everybody gets a trophy’ approach. Sad!

I would like to see the first one wearing this take the walk of shame through an army base.

I I had to hand those things out I would call it the “Pink Weasel” and slap it on his butt.

Na, seriously, someone should recognize their hardships…

The 24 hour shift without coffee trophy, the Magenta Heart for papercuts, The Distinguished Service without Air Condition Cross…

Snappiest dresser, smoothest dance moves…

[quote]Karado wrote:
And I say they should be awarded no “medals” whatsoever.
Why? Because they’re not fucking “Pilots” in the traditional sense in the first place.
Promotions maybe, raises maybe, but not fucking medals…not for working in a protected and sequestered environment Stateside.
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They should just have one medal. They take a picture of it and email it to the recipient. You can display it prominently on your desktop.

Fuck the medals, I’d want a new skin for my drone.

[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:

[quote]Karado wrote:
And I say they should be awarded no “medals” whatsoever.
Why? Because they’re not fucking “Pilots” in the traditional sense in the first place.
Promotions maybe, raises maybe, but not fucking medals…not for working in a protected and sequestered environment Stateside.
[/quote]

It’s an extension of the ‘everybody gets a trophy’ approach. Sad! [/quote]

Somewhat. I think it being above the bronze star is all politics though. This is an award for officers, it isn’t for enlisted guys.

[quote]b89 wrote:

[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:

[quote]Karado wrote:
And I say they should be awarded no “medals” whatsoever.
Why? Because they’re not fucking “Pilots” in the traditional sense in the first place.
Promotions maybe, raises maybe, but not fucking medals…not for working in a protected and sequestered environment Stateside.
[/quote]

It’s an extension of the ‘everybody gets a trophy’ approach. Sad! [/quote]

Somewhat. I think it being above the bronze star is all politics though. This is an award for officers, it isn’t for enlisted guys. [/quote]

Ah, so the people that watch the people who play glorified video games all day?

Also, poster above was right, the US Army does not get it at all.

They should unlock new weapon system, make them earn an awesome painting for their drone, publish high scores and whatnot.

[quote]b89 wrote:
Somewhat. I think it being above the bronze star is all politics though. This is an award for officers, it isn’t for enlisted guys. [/quote]

It’s definitely about politics. I don’t quite understand where they put it though considering that these are Air Force folks we’re talking about so their medal structure is a bit different anyway. I wonder why they just wouldn’t get an Air Medal instead.

james

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Friggin Chair Farce… Wear a nomex flight suit to your computer during your flights… Get combat medals for being behind said computers… Damn I didn’t know the Military was into ADND.

If they want to create Marksman type standards specifically associated with drone activities perhaps I could understand.

[quote]Chushin wrote:
James,

Are there other high-level military medals unrelated to combat?[/quote]

Yeah, there definitely are. Distinguished Service Medal, Defense Superior Service, etc. I wasn’t in the Air Force so I don’t know the criteria for these but I know they exist.

james

[quote]atypical1 wrote:

[quote]b89 wrote:
Somewhat. I think it being above the bronze star is all politics though. This is an award for officers, it isn’t for enlisted guys. [/quote]

It’s definitely about politics. I don’t quite understand where they put it though considering that these are Air Force folks we’re talking about so their medal structure is a bit different anyway. I wonder why they just wouldn’t get an Air Medal instead.

james
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My guess is guys flying the jets would take offense sharing a medal with the drone guys. With how many high ranking commissioned officers that have spent time flying in the USAF it isn’t that surprising.

I’d like to know how many children around the ages of 7-15 could do this drone job and get higher scores than the real “pilots” flying them.

My nephew could get a service star before his next Bday.

[quote]atypical1 wrote:
Higher than a Bronze Star? Interesting and I can’t say that I agree with that.

james[/quote]

It’s a non-combat medal, as the Bronze Star can be if awarded without V.

I don’t have a problem with this and I have chest full of medals, some pretty dearly obtained.

I hack on REMFs, but they are often mission-critical. Drones provide a huge edge.

And,no, it’s not about just being a a joy-stick rider. Most of the really good drone pilots are former combat-arms people that know what the hell they are looking at, know what to tell you, and were probably in your unit a couple years before, but can’t be on the ground due to injuries of some ind.

I definitely think that being a drone pilot is harder than we joke around. I’m sure that there is a level of stress that goes along with watching someone day in and day out and then ultimately killing them. Also the fact that you’re doing this while going home to your family and having to keep mum on it all.

The Bronze Star is always a combat medal though right? I mean you have to be in a combat zone and receiving combat pay to be awarded the device. In my mind any medal awarded in a combat zone or where one has physically risked their life should be ranked higher than those that are not.

james

[quote]atypical1 wrote:
I definitely think that being a drone pilot is harder than we joke around. I’m sure that there is a level of stress that goes along with watching someone day in and day out and then ultimately killing them. Also the fact that you’re doing this while going home to your family and having to keep mum on it all.

The Bronze Star is always a combat medal though right? I mean you have to be in a combat zone and receiving combat pay to be awarded the device. In my mind any medal awarded in a combat zone or where one has physically risked their life should be ranked higher than those that are not.

james[/quote]

No, I believe you can get a Bronze Star without a V for non-combat zone stuff, or I think you can. (I earned 2 bronzes, both with V’s and my ribbons have a metal V in the middle stripe).

I may have been pinning it on wrong, who knows? Never much of a dress blues guy. Only wore them when Bush II gave us a unit citation, and I probably fucked it up.