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New Guy Seeking Advice

so im in the pct part of my second cycle. cycle #1 i used test 250 cyp and tren ace200

twice a week for 8 weeks then my pct was from gnc. so i lost a good amount of the gains.

this time i have plained better i have nolvadex and clomid for pct. the gear i used was

equipoise300 test400 for 8 weeks 1cc of each 2 times a week.

im 34years old 6ft4in 265lbs i havent gained a bunch of weight this time but the weight

changes greatly. i work out 5 days a week 5am-7am my waist is down from 38 inchs to

under 34 i added cardio into my work out plain. i eat like a horse noodles rice meat

meat meat protine drinks creatine monohydrate flax seed fish oil n2o plus a preworkout.

my question is i want to kick my next cycle up a little bit. i can get all the names u

tend to hear about. equipoise deca susts all the tests plus pill steriods n pct. i want

to saftly do a mass building cycle. any ideas on what would be a good combo? i hope its

ok starting a thread asking this. i have read lots of articles and they never seem to

fit my body type age exc.

question number 2 is the test 400 is a blend of 6 different tests the test 250 i used

was cypinate the 250 seemed to be stronger.

                           thanks new guy

I would run 1-1.5 grams of test E or C a week with 1.25mg Letro ED and a standard PCT

no orals… nothing other than test. keep a close eye on your blood pressure

PCT from GNC? I have overlooked that section…

PCT SORRY IT WAS FROM PLANET NUTRITION.

[quote]eepapporkahah wrote:
PCT SORRY IT WAS FROM PLANET NUTRITION.[/quote]

Didn’t make it better

IF YOU READ WHAT I WROTE I WAS ALREADY SAYING I F’ED UP ON THE FIRST CYCLE. MOVE ON TO THE SECOND ONE I FINISHED AND DID RIGHT. (NO DISRESPECT INTENDED) THE POINT OF ME POSTING WAS TO GET ADVICE ON MY COMING 3RD CYCLE. LOOKING FOR SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE HEAVY THEN JUST SOME TEST. ADVICE ANYONE

^…Jesus…advice? Go to anger management before you give steroids an even worse name.

OK USMCCDS423 I WAS LOOKING TO TALK TO PEOPLE WHO KNOW MORE THAN ME. THAT WAS WHAT I THOUGHT THIS FORUM WAS ABOUT. WHY MAKE THE BAD COMMENTS AND NOT GIVE ME SOME GOOD INFO. I SEE YOU BEEN IN THIS MIX FOR A WHILE. HOOK ME UP WITH SOME OF THAT BRAIN MAN.

[quote]eepapporkahah wrote:
OK USMCCDS423 I WAS LOOKING TO TALK TO PEOPLE WHO KNOW MORE THAN ME. THAT WAS WHAT I THOUGHT THIS FORUM WAS ABOUT. WHY MAKE THE BAD COMMENTS AND NOT GIVE ME SOME GOOD INFO. I SEE YOU BEEN IN THIS MIX FOR A WHILE. HOOK ME UP WITH SOME OF THAT BRAIN MAN. [/quote]

It seems your caps lock is broken, which is why I’m busting your balls man. It’s all in good fun. Read through the stickied threads (the ones at the top of the sub forum). They detail several cycles.

That’s all the advice I can give on the subject. I haven’t run a cycle and I probably won’t for another few years.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]eepapporkahah wrote:
OK USMCCDS423 I WAS LOOKING TO TALK TO PEOPLE WHO KNOW MORE THAN ME. THAT WAS WHAT I THOUGHT THIS FORUM WAS ABOUT. WHY MAKE THE BAD COMMENTS AND NOT GIVE ME SOME GOOD INFO. I SEE YOU BEEN IN THIS MIX FOR A WHILE. HOOK ME UP WITH SOME OF THAT BRAIN MAN. [/quote]

It seems your caps lock is broken, which is why I’m busting your balls man. It’s all in good fun. Read through the stickied threads (the ones at the top of the sub forum). They detail several cycles.

That’s all the advice I can give on the subject. I haven’t run a cycle and I probably won’t for another few years. [/quote]

…then why the fuck are you here? shouldn’t you be posting in “get a life” or some other “who gives a fuck?” forum?

OP I gave you solid advice… what more are you looking for

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]eepapporkahah wrote:
OK USMCCDS423 I WAS LOOKING TO TALK TO PEOPLE WHO KNOW MORE THAN ME. THAT WAS WHAT I THOUGHT THIS FORUM WAS ABOUT. WHY MAKE THE BAD COMMENTS AND NOT GIVE ME SOME GOOD INFO. I SEE YOU BEEN IN THIS MIX FOR A WHILE. HOOK ME UP WITH SOME OF THAT BRAIN MAN. [/quote]

It seems your caps lock is broken, which is why I’m busting your balls man. It’s all in good fun. Read through the stickied threads (the ones at the top of the sub forum). They detail several cycles.

That’s all the advice I can give on the subject. I haven’t run a cycle and I probably won’t for another few years. [/quote]

…then why the fuck are you here? shouldn’t you be posting in “get a life” or some other “who gives a fuck?” forum?

OP I gave you solid advice… what more are you looking for[/quote]

That’s funny I always thought this was a free forum. Hey, weren’t you the guy that was posting all sorts of shit about powerlifters, in the powerlifting sub-forum?

OP, I guess I was busting your balls because you corrected GNC to Planet Nutrition. This was irrelevant and I was giving you a hard time about that. We could have just moved on without the correction. Agreed?

With that being said Walkway is very well respected here. He knows what he is talking about. You should post more info on your diet. Calories? Macros? He is basically telling you to skip the test blends and go straight for a long ester C or E. Normal would be a 10-12 week cycle. At 1-1.5g as suggested you will gain mass given your diet is good and you hit the weights. Always have PCT on hand before starting a cycle. I hate when people start a cycle and “plan to get their PCT towards the end” it’s stupid and irresponsible. Have everything on hand or don’t start at all. WW suggested Letro, I’d throw Arimidex in there as a possibility. Either way works. Letro is pretty strong and I’m assuming that was suggested given the higher dose of Test that was recommended. Regardless, WW has laid a simple, effective cycle for you. You should take his advice.

Question 2. Yes the 400 was a blend. Some short esters and long esters. If you were pinning Tren and Cyp together I’m sure it was the tren that you were feeling not the cyp. Tren is very powerful and Eq is not. The difference between the Test 400 and Cyp wasn’t what you felt. Tren has androgenic and anabolic ratings of 500. Test is 100/100. Tren should not be used for a first cycle. Eq 50/100

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]eepapporkahah wrote:
OK USMCCDS423 I WAS LOOKING TO TALK TO PEOPLE WHO KNOW MORE THAN ME. THAT WAS WHAT I THOUGHT THIS FORUM WAS ABOUT. WHY MAKE THE BAD COMMENTS AND NOT GIVE ME SOME GOOD INFO. I SEE YOU BEEN IN THIS MIX FOR A WHILE. HOOK ME UP WITH SOME OF THAT BRAIN MAN. [/quote]

It seems your caps lock is broken, which is why I’m busting your balls man. It’s all in good fun. Read through the stickied threads (the ones at the top of the sub forum). They detail several cycles.

That’s all the advice I can give on the subject. I haven’t run a cycle and I probably won’t for another few years. [/quote]

…then why the fuck are you here? shouldn’t you be posting in “get a life” or some other “who gives a fuck?” forum?

OP I gave you solid advice… what more are you looking for[/quote]

That’s funny I always thought this was a free forum. Hey, weren’t you the guy that was posting all sorts of shit about powerlifters, in the powerlifting sub-forum?[/quote]

nope

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]eepapporkahah wrote:
OK USMCCDS423 I WAS LOOKING TO TALK TO PEOPLE WHO KNOW MORE THAN ME. THAT WAS WHAT I THOUGHT THIS FORUM WAS ABOUT. WHY MAKE THE BAD COMMENTS AND NOT GIVE ME SOME GOOD INFO. I SEE YOU BEEN IN THIS MIX FOR A WHILE. HOOK ME UP WITH SOME OF THAT BRAIN MAN. [/quote]

It seems your caps lock is broken, which is why I’m busting your balls man. It’s all in good fun. Read through the stickied threads (the ones at the top of the sub forum). They detail several cycles.

That’s all the advice I can give on the subject. I haven’t run a cycle and I probably won’t for another few years. [/quote]

…then why the fuck are you here? shouldn’t you be posting in “get a life” or some other “who gives a fuck?” forum?

OP I gave you solid advice… what more are you looking for[/quote]

That’s funny I always thought this was a free forum. Hey, weren’t you the guy that was posting all sorts of shit about powerlifters, in the powerlifting sub-forum?[/quote]

nope[/quote]

To it being a free forum or about talking shit to powerlifters?

[quote]installglass wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]eepapporkahah wrote:
OK USMCCDS423 I WAS LOOKING TO TALK TO PEOPLE WHO KNOW MORE THAN ME. THAT WAS WHAT I THOUGHT THIS FORUM WAS ABOUT. WHY MAKE THE BAD COMMENTS AND NOT GIVE ME SOME GOOD INFO. I SEE YOU BEEN IN THIS MIX FOR A WHILE. HOOK ME UP WITH SOME OF THAT BRAIN MAN. [/quote]

It seems your caps lock is broken, which is why I’m busting your balls man. It’s all in good fun. Read through the stickied threads (the ones at the top of the sub forum). They detail several cycles.

That’s all the advice I can give on the subject. I haven’t run a cycle and I probably won’t for another few years. [/quote]

…then why the fuck are you here? shouldn’t you be posting in “get a life” or some other “who gives a fuck?” forum?

OP I gave you solid advice… what more are you looking for[/quote]

That’s funny I always thought this was a free forum. Hey, weren’t you the guy that was posting all sorts of shit about powerlifters, in the powerlifting sub-forum?[/quote]

nope[/quote]

To it being a free forum or about talking shit to powerlifters?
[/quote]

to talking shit about powerlifters in the powerlifting forum

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]eepapporkahah wrote:
OK USMCCDS423 I WAS LOOKING TO TALK TO PEOPLE WHO KNOW MORE THAN ME. THAT WAS WHAT I THOUGHT THIS FORUM WAS ABOUT. WHY MAKE THE BAD COMMENTS AND NOT GIVE ME SOME GOOD INFO. I SEE YOU BEEN IN THIS MIX FOR A WHILE. HOOK ME UP WITH SOME OF THAT BRAIN MAN. [/quote]

It seems your caps lock is broken, which is why I’m busting your balls man. It’s all in good fun. Read through the stickied threads (the ones at the top of the sub forum). They detail several cycles.

That’s all the advice I can give on the subject. I haven’t run a cycle and I probably won’t for another few years. [/quote]

…then why the fuck are you here? shouldn’t you be posting in “get a life” or some other “who gives a fuck?” forum?

OP I gave you solid advice… what more are you looking for[/quote]

That’s funny I always thought this was a free forum. Hey, weren’t you the guy that was posting all sorts of shit about powerlifters, in the powerlifting sub-forum?[/quote]

nope[/quote]

Well I stand corrected then.

i just read a message from the moderator about what it mean to type in all caps. my bad guy

could anyone give me the breakdown in cc’s for 1-1.5 grams of test c or e. i used google but i got 2 different answers. and better safe than sorry.

[quote]eepapporkahah wrote:
could anyone give me the breakdown in cc’s for 1-1.5 grams of test c or e. i used google but i got 2 different answers. and better safe than sorry.[/quote]

Not sure what you are asking

[quote]eepapporkahah wrote:
could anyone give me the breakdown in cc’s for 1-1.5 grams of test c or e. i used google but i got 2 different answers. and better safe than sorry.[/quote]

depends on the concentration of your gear… if it’s 250mg/ml then you will need 4ml for 1 gram, and 6ml for 1.5 grams