New Business Failures

If there is a shift in structure, it will happen within corporate hierarchies. Which is very possible given the evolution of millennial culture. We’re talking about the desire for flatter hierarchies, more transparency and more participative management styles within the workplace.

HOWEVER, this would mean the workforce is getting more highly skilled, hence enabling more leverage.

The top down structure will never change. If it is forced by government, talent will simply move away to countries with more opportunities for advancement in accordance to their skill set. People do not go to law and medical school just to earn a similar pay as a factory worker. I did not work ridiculous amounts of hours and subject myself to risks others were unwilling to take just to have the same amount of equity in my company as others who were not willing to do the same.

The unskilled and bums are still going to be left behind. The biggest lie politicians selling you social justice will tell you is that corporations are only competing for market share. Nope. They are also competing for talent. I get phone calls from headhunters once a week for pretty good positions. I’ll bet you have never gotten one.

The real challenge to the current corporate structure is deregulating the market and enabling more competition(see report on Nordic model you posted if source is needed although this is fucking common sense) while encouraging more self-enterprise so that talent is dispersed and not taken up by a single or group of corporations, while still allowing them to be remunerated according to their skills as determined by the market.

But zep doesn’t want this because he thinks it will lead to him not getting free money… Even though the Nordic model has implemented it since the 80s as described in the sources he posted himself. Instead, he wants millions to pay more taxes, all heathcare professionals to take 40% paycuts and “not stop working” and corruption to continue.

Incoming deflection will be about the 1% and the ruling class and corporations buying politicians or wars, unrelated nonsense parroted from Bernie and his cronies, with the usual infantile declaration that not taking corporate donations means they cannot steal money elsewhere like politicians do in the billions in countries with Big Government.

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The hypocrisy is all your’s.

From the report on the Nordic Model posted by you:

Then you attempted to debunk your own source after you realized it goes against your argument with another study:

Which was a lie because it also goes against your arguments:

A blatant LIE because not only did you only paste 2 lines from it, you also refused to post the link to the study which concludes:

Then you rejected it once I posted the actual study, the study you tried to make seem to support your argument:

So you posted one study without knowing it was against your argument, then posted another one trying to debunk it without knowing it was also against your argument, then disagreed with both.

Hypocrite.

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His biggest problem, aside from the above, is that he doesn’t read what he sources. He bases his opinions on the title of an article or a research paper. Every single time he posts “evidence” he thinks supports his position it does the opposite. It’s happened 50x at this point. It’s why I just chuckle when he says something like “you ignore the majority of evidence”. No, clown, the majority of your evidence does not say what you think it says.

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He’s parroting what people like Cortez say. I watched her recent interviews and she behaves the same way.

A question on how medicare-for-all will be paid for leads to a deflection to war, billionaires, morality etc without a single relevant answer to the question.

He even took this quote from her literally:

“…when it comes to tax cuts for billionaires and when it comes to unlimited war we seem to be able to invent that money very easily,”

IMHO, you guys would really benefit by giving her a bigger platform to state her views.

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No way, man. We have too many stupid voters like Zep here.

Yeah, let her rile them up, start screaming and look bad to normal people. It will be twice as bad as the “basket of deplorables effect”, I can guarantee that lol.

She’s on NBC Nightly News and I’m sure other MSM outlets, including CNN and Fox News cover her and I’m sure MSNBC and the like. I’m pretty sure NYT has run stories on her, I know WSJ has, and more ‘new media’ types like Daily Wire, TYT, and Breitbart all cover her - she was PBS’ revived Firing Line for crissakes … her platform is plenty big and she’s been making more gaffs than Gary Johnson after a fishbowl

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Those gaffs are obviously a manifestation of the white conservative patriarchy out to silence a strong independent progressive woman for the people!

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Clearly … anyone who doesn’t see that is a derelict

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Yeah, keep believing that cause this is exactly what the status quo wants, sheep!

Not so difficult just try and breakthrough your brainwashing.

Cool, bro… Solid analysis. I love how you weren’t even aware Big Pharm made billions under Canada’s single-payer system. Clown.

Honestly, do you hope to have any meaningful discussion? Do you expect to persuade? I guess what the fuck is your goal here? What are you hoping to accomplish?

Look man, we’re for the most all smart, intelligent, diverse people from different backgrounds - you really expect that all of us are “just brainwashed”?? For real? Does that seem likely to you given how a few of us espouse free thinking and less government is better attitudes? I.e. we’re already skeptical of centralized power (Big Gov, Cronyism, bloated bureaucracies, etc) - and you really think people who tend to think like that are susceptible to brainwashing? Like what is your evidence?

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But how do corporations and the ultra-wealthy fit into this? What has been the effect on elections?

In a Socialist country, The State OWNS ALL CO-OPS. Which means, although technically, “workers own the means of production in their workplace”, so does the rest of the country.

Are you denying that workers cannot own their own business without government?

If we were to apply the principle of “1 share, 1 vote

We don’t have anything even close to a 1 citizen 1 vote effective model. As the corporations have bought the politicians.

Like in America. The politicians say one thing and then do the bidding of their donors. Pretty sweet, huh?

Votes against single-payer is the only thing I can think of. He’s actually Alex Jones, what a twist.

That’s easy, we disagree with him; therefore, we are brainwashed sheep. Even though he’s admitted to being a die hard Rush Limbaugh fan prior to his “enlightenment”.

What is this? like what’s your definition of “ultra-wealthy”? I’m curious.

also i know this is like beating a dead horse but:

are extremely diverse in form and function - any kind of corporation you have in mind?

i think part of the disconnect between you and, well, reality, is your seeming inability to give a viable, acceptable definition for any real conversation to take place. I know USMC has attempted to go through the corp definitions with you which you just deflect and start down the road of insults so…

Well, tbh, I don’t expect anything different…

No shit…huh … I really do not believe that … I think he just threw that name out there b/c it’s the only conservative talk show host he knows … I’m surprised he didn’t say Hannity tbh

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Oh ya, he’s even said he’s more socially liberal, but economically conservative (iirc). A true enigma this one is.

He has no ability what so ever to differentiate similar objects or institutions. Any one is either the same as the others or completely different.

No ability to see or understand nuance.

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