Your choice. But that option is much more thin than it used to be.
Is Venezuela?
Venezuela (/ËvÉnÉËzweÉȘlÉ/ ( listen) VEN-É-ZWAYL-É; American Spanish: [beneËswela]), officially the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela (Spanish: RepĂșblica Bolivariana de Venezuela),[8][note 1] is a federal republic.
Sounds good in theory but how has it worked out in reality?
What is Denmark?
First, a bit of history. Denmark did not become wealthy through redistribution alone, obviously. In fact, as Otto BrĂžns-Petersen of Denmarkâs Center for Political Studies recently explained, it got rich under a taxation and spending regime not that different from that of the big bad United States.
So the socialist policies helped along the way?
More garbage.
Wage stagnation would actually lend to my theory that people arenât outperforming their parents. If they were outperforming their parents theyâd be paid more.
I work for the largest staffing company on the planet. Itâs common knowledge that people not wanting to become upper class is a huge factor
Good for you. Is that the experience of the vast majority of Americans? And if not, why would you say itâs not?
Oh no. It canât be true as it hasnât come from the mainstream(corporate)media. Because they obviously have no dog in this fight.
The real news is that even though Venezuela has the funds to buy vital medicines and food stuffs, such efforts are being blocked by U.S., Canadian, and European Union sanctions. In other words, the enemies of Venezuela are hypocritically condemning the very conditions they are exacerbating.
The rightwing opposition is united in their class antipathy to the main beneficiaries of the Bolivarian Revolution: the poor and working people of Venezuela. But the opposition, despite assistance from the U.S., has been divided over whether to try to overthrow Maduro by illegal means or electorally.
The opposition has won only two of some two-dozen major national elections since 1998. On that basis it complains of a âdictatorship,â while former U.S. President Jimmy Carter calls Venezuelaâas the best electoral system in the world.
Trump administration has imposed new sanctions designed to prevent recovery, further punishing the Venezuelan people for voting the way they wanted.
Wha? The U.S. would never do such a thing. They are benevolent. Looking to spread democracy, not thwart it.
A non-corporate source of information. So it must not be true.
Your weak point has already been answered in a previous post.
Even if this were true, how does it negate the policies pursued by the U.S.?
Are you calling our Lord and Savior, Bernie Sanders a liar?
Jesus Christ. Venezeula is an authoritarian dictatorship. There is no argument against this. I would suggest that you let it go.
With limited/decreasing government intervention? Very well, I would say. Look at Sweden (charts above).
Redistribution does not create wealth for fuckâs sake. It REDISTRIBUTES it. Thatâs why itâs called REDISTRIBUTION.
These are SOCIAL policies, NOT SOCIALIST policies.
Donât just copy a single post on quora that you think supports you and assume it makes any sense.
Iâve told you above:
You may argue for higher welfare and there may be valid arguments such as increased job and social security may lead to increased productivity, which would lead to (hopefully) an increase in wages and greater spending power. You would have to post a shitload of proof from different areas to show correlation but itâs arguable.
Taking an entirely socialist stance simply defeats whatever argument you throw out because the inherent contradictions of the ideology itself cannot be reconciled with a market economy.
Glad you think so. This was the battle cry of The People who thought Bitcoin was going to take down the banks. Most of them were just in it to profit.
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Of course itâs true. You know why I know? Because you see shit like this EVERY DAY in the news in China since the early 2000s. I didnât even have to read any news about Venezuela to know that this would happen. It was the same in the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, India over the last century. This is all PREDICTABLE and follows a very similar pattern. It is nothing new.
I do not want to comment on US policy out of respect for Americans. You have not even seen me bring up Trump. The point is that it is not a causative factor in the decline and eventual implosion of socialism and authoritarianism.
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There is more child food insecurity in the U.S. So 1 in 5 or 20%
Just for a comparison, I looked up child hunger in the U.S. and found that most sites use the figure one in five. Or 20 percent. So, in the worldâs most prosperous nation 20 percent of children face hunger, while in Venezuela the number is 19.3 percent . Since these statistics are so close, I suggest that Town Hall publish a more accurate and equally urgent article entitled: âUS Capitalism Fails at Feeding the Children, and Venezuelan Socialism Does only Slightly Better.â
So in your indigence Iâd imagine you feel the same way as corporate leaders profit from the rise in productivity of workers. Give the money back.
You are being absurd. This is a fair exchange of services. Wealth is created and taxes are paid. The worker is paid for his services accordingly. A worker can resign if he thinks he is not being paid according to his value and seek employment elsewhere. The money in the corporation does not belong to him. He is free to go into self-enterprise if he wishes to own the means of production. Unless commies decide they want to nationalize or redistribute them.
The money held by the State BELONGS TO ITâS CITIZENS because it is money they have paid in taxes. This is outright THEFT.
Alright, letâs apply this to an SME.
How about workers go with no pay and still work when there are losses? How about all of the workers sign their names as guarantors when bank loans are required for cash flow? Or how about they take out their own money and invest in the company to keep it running?
Would they do these? No fucking way. Why, then, do people feel entitled to so many demands when the company is big if no one would have dared to take the risks required to build it while the company was small?
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So Denmark is a mixed economy with higher taxes. I remember watching a debate among Sanders v. Cruz and a conservative from Denmark was fielding questions about there healthcare system. While he stated they had higher taxes than the U.S. his wife was diagnosed with cancer. And their bill was $0. So yeah they had higher taxes but he wasnât forced into bankruptcy and held accountable for his wife getting sick. How terrible.
Can the same thing be said about Co-Ops?
In a purely socialist country, yes. Co-ops are an expression of a capitalist economy.
Look, what on earth is with the hard on for co-ops and trying to link it with socialism? You are being led on by populists spreading their ideology as a way getting support and votes.
A sole proprietorship lets the proprietor own all the resources.
Partnerships and Limited Liability Partnerships are forms of shared ownership.
Private Limited Companies allow people to own all the resources as long as they have the same amount of shares. Yes, you can have 1 share per person.
Co-ops are being used as an ideological symbol. Donât get taken in.
This is fucking stupid. I buy all my generic medications and even steroids from places like INDIA. Third World Prices. India has not put sanctions on Venezuela. You really need to use some common sense when vetting a source.
From the same article:
âHow did the nation with the worldâs largest reserves come to this, a nation of hungry and desperate people? Well, that depends on who you ask. The opposition blames President Nicolas Maduro. Maduro blames the U.S. The press blames socialism. Maduroâs ruling party blames capitalism. Economists blame price controls. Businesses blame bureaucracy. Everyone blames corruption.â
*Centralized government with fuckload of power. What else would you expect?
"No matter what the reason, the result that matters now is this: Venezuela depends almost totally on imports for most items of basic necessity, and it has almost run out of money to buy these imports, which these days mostly end up in the wrong hands anyway.
*direct conflict with the other article you posted.
Obviously, getting the motors of domestic agriculture and production up and running is the long-term solution. But while all this will take years â perhaps decades â Fabi is hungry.
So, is it true that Venezuela is about to go over the edge? Well, it may, even before I finish this article. My partner just texted to say that roads to our town are blocked with hunger protests and he is returning to the city."
Are there starving people protesting on the streets in the US for food? Are you resorting to self-grown food and barter trade to survive?
This writer is an idiot.
P.S. This was written in 2016. It is much WORSE now.
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You know what would have happened if his wife was deemed too old or had an unattractive prognosis? Pain pills to ease her passing. Thatâs how socialized medicine works. Even people that push for it acknowledge this. They consider it a feature, not a bug.
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