New Business Failures

In your silly attempt to be clever, you didn’t see the word “managed” either.

Lol.

Wow you learned something off of YouTube? Can’t be.

The members of the Supreme Court do.

Upper level management along with the Board of Directors of a corporation ought to be held accountable along with the corporation. Punishing people and sanctioning or dissolving the corporation, so that they can no longer conduct business. Sounds about right.

Has absolutely nothing to do with their actions.

And the propaganda machine shows its affects.

Oh yes, you’re right.

Being someone who works with the upper levels of corporations, I can clearly see it’s effect on you.

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Ever heard of Libertarian Socialism?

I have. But I want to know what YOUR definition of it is.

You forgot to specify. Is this in the U.S. or all over the world?

You never care, because any evidence that deflates your ideology can’t be accepted. So you merely disregard it, in an effort to save face.

But you consistently disregard the advertisements, engineered foods and lack of money, as a means to influence the publics decision. As long as no one is pointing a gun to their head, it’s all good.

So as long as people can make another buck even by helping to destroy the health of the population it’s all good.

A very infant-like view of the world. As long as someone does not have a gun pointed to their head then everything else has to be discounted in regards to the level of influence they try and impose on the public.

A different view of restaurant workers and the state of the minimum wage as a whole.

This is true, despite the fact that, after correcting
for inflation, today’s $7.25 federal minimum is about 33 percent lower than the $10.85
figure as of 1968—46 years ago. This long-term deterioration in the real value of the
minimum wage is even more dramatic after we recognize that average labor productivity
has risen by roughly 135 percent since 1968. This means that, if the federal minimum
wage had risen in step with both inflation and average labor productivity since 1968, the
federal minimum today would be $25.50 an hour. (gasp!)

A study done by the PERI Institute.

Another one.

www.peri.umass.edu/fileadmin/pdf/research_brief/PERI_fast_food_wages.pdf

So which is correct? An article that quotes from The Koch Brothers Heritage Foundation or studies?

As if it’s that easy.

It really is. I know a woman who can barely read, can’t do math. But she has scamming SS disability benefits and federal/state said down to a science. She’s 65yo and never held a job her entire life.

Glad I clicked in here for an afternoon laugh.

They all look ridiculously bad right now, and there are plenty of junk co’s right now that won’t exist in a couple of years, but I’m into Cannabis Science and Crown Baus Capital. I don’t exactly recommend them other than to provide the disclaimer that it is straight up gambling and should be treated as such.

I’m just playing with them in the event that they blow up on good news or get bought by a major pharma or tobacco co.

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Well, yes, but that’s because I watched an actual professor not some looney tunes basement dweller.

No, they don’t. They recognize a c Corp as a legal entity not a living entity.

Educate yourself.

Correct, what I wrote is a fantasy people like you believe.

Thanks for confirming what I said to @dt79

Dumb, but that’s to be expected.

That’s not even remotely what I’ve said over the years or what I believe, but I get it, reading os difficult for you.

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We both know there’s a zero percent chance you read that study and be also know there’s a one hundred percent chance if I do it won’t support your viewpoint.

And, shockingly, once again you ignore 3 of the most important factors related to productivity and the minimum wage 1) the invention of the computer, 2) automation, and 3) the nearly doubling of the labor force when women entered it in the late 60’s, roughly.

But, I know, I know, the boogeyman offshoring…

Sure, of course you can. Nobody said you can’t.

This is not the same as supporting a socialist government.

You cut and pasted a definition of “economic model” straight out of wiki but you couldn’t do this for “capitalism”? Why?

“an economic and political system in which a country’s trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.”

Again, how do you foresee this happening with a socialist government?

A co-op can, and should have the right to exist under a capitalist economy without interference from the government because it is a private entity. How it is governed internally is up to it’s members within the law.

So, what is your point? Are you saying you want to use the force of the government to shut down all companies and make only co-ops legal and not privately owned?

Private ownership:

the fact of being owned by a private individual or organization, rather than by the state or a public body

Or are you of the opinion that co-ops should be state owned and governed by the workers?

You’ve defined this.

Now at the very least answer this:

Who are you against? Small companies with a couple of thousand dollars in paid up capital, with few directors cum shareholders earning less than six figures annually? Medium ones? Large ones? Public listed? What is the limit? Or should they all burn because zep hates them?

It is a system that allows co-ops to exist and it’s members to privately own equity.

Who is suffering other than your alleged claim about the pharma industry?

You have a computer in the form of a cell phone. You are communicating with me from across the globe in real time. This cell phone can store 1,000s of songs. You can watch tv channels on it. And this cell phone is accessible, and affordable to even the lowest earning members of society. There are factory workers in China who have better cell phones than I because I don’t care for the latest models.

If you are intending to use the usual cry of, “But the middle class is dying!”,

  1. There is NO middle class in a socialist system.
  2. There would be NO middle class without capitalism. If you are intending to dispute this, there are more than enough examples of middle classes being created in emerging economies. In real time. This is not theory nor conjecture.

I see you’re trying to be clever again. Alright, let’s play.

If you propose socialism, even libertarian socialism, which was one of the dominant ideologies subscribed to during the Russian Revolution, how well has it worked over the course of history?

You answered the question, but you still do not understand what a business model is. Read what you copied and pasted again.

Business models are ever-changing and can take on multiple forms according to things like it’s target market and industry, with organizational structure(democratic or otherwise) being ONE aspect among many.

You do not understand business at all if you think one can be defined as simply “socialist” or “capitalist”. This being the case, why do you think you have sufficient knowledge to even make a commentary about this subject?

If you did actually educate yourself on this subject prior to engaging instead of using catchphrases like, “This is evil!”, I might even be willing to discuss the matter at at length and have my views changed.

It is very typical of people like you. You can’t be bothered to come prepared with in-depth knowledge, or at least sufficient real world experience, of the topic in contention but you expect others to afford you the same respect and weight of your opinions one would give another person who actually did.

You won’t even financially support a co-op while you think you are qualified to morally chastise others who don’t.

Of course you are demanding the same payout as someone more qualified and did more work.

“Yeah-yeah, but that means they should be making 1.75x what the material handlers in their warehouses make. I think it’s safe to say that they’re making well over $52,500/year(assuming a generous $12/hour for material handlers).”- @Zeppelin795

This may be true in a handful of cases but not the overwhelming majority of cases. Not to mention the pay is horrible. A person working even at a Target or convenience store can make better money.