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NEED Pro Help

…new at this and no flaming

ok im in a branch of the military and am in a special forces group i have had nothing but 300 out of 300 pt score since i joined. however everyone im working with is using 250, deca, teranal bowl or some dragon, t400, and some other stuff and i just want something to tone me up i dont think anything will hurt my pt i just want to add a bit off mass.

last pt score was
104 pushups in 2 mins
94 sit ups in 2 mins
1340 2 mile run

my specs
6’1
174
on the skinny side

right now im an m4 and my dream would be a 203 or a saw gunner which are all bigger weapons for bigger guys

ok so here is sorta my problem nothing seems to work to add mussle or weight. i eat 5 mass gainers and still eat fast and big meals but i gained like 1.5 pounds with a 5 pound bag of this weight gainer just a waste of money.

i just want to put on some mussle and some mass mostly uper body

also i hear people getting man boobs and i guess my question is i have an indented chest to where my six pack sticks out more then my chest unless i arch way the hell back which makes me look and walk retarded. often people think i have a gut cause it sticks out prolly 2 inches out further then my chest.

so if i take them i hear your chest will get bigger and i do do alot of benching so will it make me look normal that alone would make this worth doing for me. but i dont want man boobs just a bigger chest.

also i have carried the saw before on a 12 mile ruck no problem but i need the mass to control it a little bit better.

i really have no fear of pain or needles how ever all i have to take is 3 test400 and 1 deca300 all 10ml bottles

also all my needles are in ML so i need to know what i need to take in ml that translate to mg

also im pretty sure i want to do this prolly 90percent just want to know if i need anything or could get something that would cut me up

also when i take this how long does it take for me to feel something? and what should my cycle look like with how much to take rember i need them in ml not mg and test 400 i assume one ml is 400? and deca 300 one ml is 300?

o sorry checking what everyones putting on here

as far as diet i dont have one honestly i eat fast food a eat trans and everything i never really gain so i never really care

my protein intake is about 200-250 grams a day

lol sorry for all my own posts 2 tubes say testo 400 same bottle same everything and other dude has been using same stuff with same results and the stuff in it is the same as test 400 just wanted to know your guys take. i think its more mexican then the others lol so getto ver

Um, wow.

You are expected to do some research on your own. Not throw up some compounds you’re buddies are doing, and expect us to put your cycle together.

This is a bad idea.

[quote]5.0 wrote:
Um, wow.

You are expected to do some research on your own. Not throw up some compounds you’re buddies are doing, and expect us to put your cycle together.

This is a bad idea. [/quote]
hahaha big time edit

Howie didnt we already tell you several times we were not helping you?
typicaly special forces guys are very smart arent they?

Agreed, you can make massive changes with food.

Food is THE most anabolic substance, and you think a 5lb bag of gainer is a waste when it puts 1.5lbs on you??
Shit mate, i buy 10lbs of protein every month, never fail.

You will put on a little water and a little muscle with the streroids - and lose it straight afterwards if you dont have your food intake where it needs to be…

Plus the guys who are taking the AAS and are complaining of bitch tits, moon face, (and believe me, most will be getting a limp dick too) may well be unaware but not only are there drugs to PREVENT that, but bitch tits just get worse and worse and stay with you till they are cut out!
Not to mention the fact that many of your bro’s will not be doing proper control of sides or PCT and thus will all likely enjoy sexual dysfunction in later life.

So, when ya starting the drugs?

well thats what im saying i eat till i almost throw up and i dont gain a pound.

with test 400 and deca 300 i heard

i should do 1.5ml of test and .5 to 1 ml of deca? is this right

no one answered my man boob question ither cause what im looking for is a bigger chest since mines indented so if im lifting weight would they be boobs or just a really big chest

[quote]pumpuprus101 wrote:
well thats what im saying i eat till i almost throw up and i dont gain a pound.

with test 400 and deca 300 i heard

i should do 1.5ml of test and .5 to 1 ml of deca? is this right

no one answered my man boob question ither cause what im looking for is a bigger chest since mines indented so if im lifting weight would they be boobs or just a really big chest[/quote]

I mean honestly,why are you doing this?
who are you trying to fool? really?
or am I way off base here

lol also we are smart sorry i droped the ball i have how much im being told to take but my goal is to get to 200-220 i know that is a lot but from what i have read is test add mussle and it really stays with you.

also i stoped the weight gainer its different then protien cause the one i had is like 1.5k to 2k but im sure you know this as far as protien ive steped it up to prolly 200-225 grams a day.plus i eat 2 mres that are also 2k in cals for lunch and dinner.

but i stay the same weight and if i stop eating ill drop to prolly 150-160 and look like a 3rd world kid.from what i ive read test 400 puts mass on most of the guys here say it doesnt hurt and to be honest thats the least of my worries.

thanks im not jumping in this right away just wanted to know some things wish i could get some answers

the chest being bigger? or real boobs?

how lond does it take to hit you if you do take it

how many mgs are in a ml of test 400 and deca 300 i would assume 400 and 300 lol but i want to be on the save side

how much i should take i hear 600t4 - 300 d300 but i want to confirm

also i would like to keep weight if i lose any more or drop to 150 160 ill be put on a skinny profile which sucks they make sure im not depressed lol and drink ensure like every meal.

if i can get those questions answered that would be great guys

[quote]pumpuprus101 wrote:
lol also we are smart sorry i droped the ball i have how much im being told to take but my goal is to get to 200-220 i know that is a lot but from what i have read is test add mussle and it really stays with you.

also i stoped the weight gainer its different then protien cause the one i had is like 1.5k to 2k but im sure you know this as far as protien ive steped it up to prolly 200-225 grams a day.plus i eat 2 mres that are also 2k in cals for lunch and dinner.

but i stay the same weight and if i stop eating ill drop to prolly 150-160 and look like a 3rd world kid.from what i ive read test 400 puts mass on most of the guys here say it doesnt hurt and to be honest thats the least of my worries.

thanks im not jumping in this right away just wanted to know some things wish i could get some answers

the chest being bigger? or real boobs?

how lond does it take to hit you if you do take it

how many mgs are in a ml of test 400 and deca 300 i would assume 400 and 300 lol but i want to be on the save side

how much i should take i hear 600t4 - 300 d300 but i want to confirm

also i would like to keep weight if i lose any more or drop to 150 160 ill be put on a skinny profile which sucks they make sure im not depressed lol and drink ensure like every meal.

if i can get those questions answered that would be great guys[/quote]

ok first off,why do YOU think that its called test 400.

now after all test is test is test so whats the difference with the numbers eg test 250,test 400 whatever what do YOU think?
second you accounted for about 400o kcals if you are special forces then you would know a bit about training and you should also know that you are not eating enough.

MRE they are shit and I bet real special forces guys dont eat mre on a daily basis.
in the feild ya but if you were in the feild chowing on MREs then why are you here?

come on man look into this shit yourslef you have been turned down with your other name why do you make a new one just to ask the same question and think we are dumb?

do it man, you gonna get HUGE tits, like double D’s, itll be awesome.

fucking moron

You have no clue about what you plan to do. That is itself is a good enough reason as to why you should not do this.

If you can’t gain a lb right now with what you are currently eating you are not going to put on anything other than water while on AAS either.