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Need Advice on Going from HRT to First Cycle


#1

35 years old, been on TRT for 8 years. Never done over 225mg cyp a week. Lifting for 20 years, definitely hit both my natural and TRT plateaus. Looking to upgrade to a cycle above TRT doses. I’ve narrowed it down to 3 different options based on what’s available and safe for me to acquire right now:

  • bump up to 500mg cyp
  • add 300mg EQ to my 200mg cyp
  • add 100mg prop to my 200 mg cyp

I know these are on the mild side, people are probably going to say I need to add more to see any legitimate gains. I’m not a pro or fitness model, I just want to take it slow and see how this goes.

Which would you pick? I’m 178lbs, always been super lean, hard gainer.


#2

Let’s see. Physique pics and numbers for all your lifts?


#3

Increase the cyp. Yeah, you’re right, I was going to suggest 3× to 675mgs EW for 8 weeks but 500mgs is cool. See how that goes first. It’s your best option imo.


#4

So you suggest the increase in cyp vs introducing the EQ? Curious as to why if you don’t mind sharing


#5

Because it’s best. Any solid cycle has test as a base. Also, not a big fan of EQ. Have to take large amount for minimal gain, imo.
A test only cycle is a good cycle by itself. You can advance down the road. I’d recommend deca if you wanted a nice bulker.


#6

I would bump the test dose to 500. I think you’ll see way more results off that. I’ve been running 250 test e, 300 eq and 300 deca for 6 weeks now. Been doing an experiment on myself to see what kind of gains but they have been minimal to say the least. Probably a waste of my money lol. B double your test dose.


#7

I was going to go w the Test/EQ but my close buddy just started the same routine about 6 weeks ago. He swears starting week two he started feeling “weird”. Can’t describe it but says he feels mentally off, like he’s zoned out or doesn’t feel himself. I’ve been a bit weary to use EQ since then. I’ve seen people report EQ can make you anxious, etc… if EQ does come w the potential for mental side effects, I’d probably steer clear and stick w all test.