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Need Advice and If TRT May Fix Me


#1

-age = 34
-height = 6ft
-waist = 38
-weight = 240
-describe body and facial hair = Can grow a beard, currently have a gotee, but as of 2 mos seems to take a bit to grow out where I used to have to trim it every 2-3 weeks. Body hair is the same, and has not changed yet, but due get some crazy itchiness in chest area
-describe where you carry fat and how changed = i carry most of my fat in my abdominal area. It has changed this past year in a half by losing most of it, but i still have a bit more id like to lose. I’d say currently right now I am at 23-25% body fat.

-health conditions, symptoms [history] = Being treated for pre-hypertension for over 10 years. Diagnosed with sleep apnea for 8 years.
-Rx and OTC drugs, any hair loss drugs or prostate drugs ever 20 mg of Lisniopril, tried the rogain foam for a week 6 years ago, and tried a organic argan oil shampoo this past year for a 6 months that blocked dht at the follical, but stopped that way before symptoms started happening. Use an apnea machine, but maybe due again to visit the sleep lab to see how things are.

-lab results with ranges
will add below.

-describe diet [some create substantial damage with starvation diets]
Past year and half i’ve been on a low carb diet up until 5 mos ago when my diet wasn’t so great but not cheeseburgers everyday. Hasn’t been great a for the past couple of months but I amm starting a new meal plan with clean carbs, and protein, low fat 30%. Trying that out see if it helps me over come my weight loss plateau. ~2200 as opposed to the 1800 diet that got me to lose 50-60 lbs.

-describe training [some ruin there hormones by over training]
squats, deadlifts, overhead press, olympic and power lifting mostly. Dropped the weight initially with HITT 3-4 a week
-testes ache, ever, with a fever? = Ive had testes ache recently because i tried to use D-Aspartic to improve levels to try to shed some more fat and increase lifting weight. But never had a fever.

-how have morning wood and nocturnal erections changed = Some nocturnal erections, but morning wood has always been hit or miss for a few years now.

To give a better background, I was diagnosed with pre hyper-tension when i was 24 while in the hospital because i had a UTI that had become pretty bad enough requiring many tests in the hospital. They fed me Lisinopril and a high dosage of Labetol. I quickly weened myself off of the Labetol as it really messed me up badly and I could barely move around and was very fatigued. At that time I was close to 300 lbs. Later that year I was diagnosed with Sleep Apnea.

Been trying to eat well, mostly clean foods, prepared at home and exercise 3-5 a week, but no matter how much I lift, and progress, I’ve stalled out and although feel like I have the energy to continue forward I have not really put on any muscle at all, like my muscles just give out on the lifts.

Feeling like a robot lately not caring, or fake caring, putting on a show at work. I get through my day by staying busy as I can. Issues focusing, and some brain fog. Having anxiety problems, especially towards the evening where I guess testosterone is going down for the day.

If anyone in Illinois, specifically Northern Illinois has any recommendations on a competent doctor, I can go see, would be great. I just want this to get fixed and not having a fear of a heart attack or something greater.


#2

Please post the rest of the ordered lab report.

Labs:
TT
FT
E2
LH/FSH
CBC - done
TSH
fT3
fT4

Please read these stickies:

  • advice for new guys and note first paragraph
  • things that damage your hormones

#3

Sorry is there a better way to upload multiple shots?


#4

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#5

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#6

Do you live in the Gurnee area? I’ve seen another thread that recommended a Dr in Chicago, otherwise I know of one just north of Milwaukee by 10 minutes who isn’t terrible.


#7

It is near my area…maybe i didn’t search hard enough…


#8

Can you point me in the direction of the thread you saw? Thanks!


#9

[quote]KSman wrote:
Please post the rest of the ordered lab report.

Labs:
TT
FT
E2
LH/FSH
CBC - done
TSH
fT3
fT4

Please read these stickies:

  • advice for new guys and note first paragraph
  • things that damage your hormones

[/quote]

So Ive checked my morning temperature and it was 98.1 degrees. I think my thyroid seems ok, but Im sure I could use a little bit of iodine anyways as i dont use iodizled salt as far as I am aware. Ill keep digging into that.

The only thing that I can think of that may have wrecked me was the d-aa and yohimbine hcl combo i was doing. After stopping lisinopril for a year, I had a scare, probably from the yohimbine, and jumped back on the lisinopril. Stupid I know. Im betting thats what dragged my DHT down and now causing my wreck of an issue. I know lisinopril messes with test-estrogen conversions.


#10

DHT is mostly determined by FT or bio-T.


#11

[quote]KSman wrote:
DHT is mostly determined by FT or bio-T.[/quote]

Ok. So is there a concern with having such a high dhea-s?


#12

[quote]zunebuggy88 wrote:
Can you point me in the direction of the thread you saw? Thanks![/quote]

“Dr. Harold Diaz on the north side of Chicago.”

or

Dr Stula LifeSteps Health & Wellness Clinic

Address: 4601 N Oakland Ave, Shorewood, WI 53211
Phone:(414) 906-1998


#13

[quote]zunebuggy88 wrote:

[quote]KSman wrote:
DHT is mostly determined by FT or bio-T.[/quote]

Ok. So is there a concern with having such a high dhea-s?
[/quote]

Your DHEA-S is high. Mine was only that high when I was supplementing with 15 mg’s of DHEA. This is a better question answered by ksman. I don’t have much knowledge on dhea-s and any dangers of elevated levels.


#14

Some more info:

What Abnormal Results Mean
An increase in DHEA-sulfate may be due to:

Congenital adrenal hyperplasia (a common genetic disorder)
Noncancerous or cancerous tumor of the adrenal gland
Polycystic ovary syndrome
Precocious puberty
A decrease in DHEA sulfate may be due to:

Adrenal glands that produce lower-than-normal amounts of their hormones
Hypopituitarism (underactive pituitary gland)
Taking glucocorticoid medications
Although DHEA-sulfate is the most abundant hormone in the body, its exact function is still not known. In men, the androgenic (male hormone) effect may not be important. In women, DHEA contributes to normal libido and sexual satisfaction. DHEA may also have effects on the immune system.


#15

[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
Some more info:

What Abnormal Results Mean
An increase in DHEA-sulfate may be due to:

Congenital adrenal hyperplasia (a common genetic disorder)
Noncancerous or cancerous tumor of the adrenal gland
Polycystic ovary syndrome
Precocious puberty
A decrease in DHEA sulfate may be due to:

Adrenal glands that produce lower-than-normal amounts of their hormones
Hypopituitarism (underactive pituitary gland)
Taking glucocorticoid medications
Although DHEA-sulfate is the most abundant hormone in the body, its exact function is still not known. In men, the androgenic (male hormone) effect may not be important. In women, DHEA contributes to normal libido and sexual satisfaction. DHEA may also have effects on the immune system.[/quote]

Well i guess is houldn’t freak out too much cause who knows, but according to this is

Typical normal ranges for males are:

Ages 18 - 19: 108 - 441 ug/dL
Ages 20 - 29: 280 - 640 ug/dL
Ages 30 - 39: 120 - 520 ug/dL
Ages 40 - 49: 95 - 530 ug/dL
Ages 50 - 59: 70 - 310 ug/dL
Ages 60 - 69: 42 - 290 ug/dL
Ages 69 and older: 28 - 175 ug/dL

Normal value ranges may vary slightly among different laboratories. Some labs use different measurements or test different specimens. Talk to your doctor about the meaning of your specific test results.


#16

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#17

[quote]zboquet wrote:
Your T levels are Rock Star[/quote]

Thanks for that. Maybe I’m trying to open a wrong can of worms. But I guess after seeing Dht numbers though it kinda concerns me a little bit since they are correlated together, from what the comment ks made.


#18

Guess maybe I’m trying to figure out why I just feel not so great. Maybe it’s more psychological than physical.


#19

No. Disregard the rock star comment. Some of your levels aren’t awful, but rock star would be TT, ft and dht all being high range optimal. TT is mid low, ft is mid and dht is low and e2 would be OK if your test ranges were great.

A good place to start may be to lose some fat.

Do you watch a lot of porn?


#20

[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
No. Disregard the rock star comment. Some of your levels aren’t awful, but rock star would be TT, ft and dht all being high range optimal. TT is mid low, ft is mid and dht is low and e2 would be OK if your test ranges were great.

A good place to start may be to lose some fat.

Do you watch a lot of porn?[/quote]

Im working on losing the fat. its been very difficult. its this damn visceral fat that im having a hard time losing.

I used to watch a lot of porn, but i pretty much stopped that. But if you include at just looking at titty pics, i’m guilty of that. but if your traveling on the road of masturbation, Im not that masturbater i once used to be, very infrequently actually now.