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Natural Gyno: Nolvadex or Surgery?

Ok, to start… yes I have read many of the articles on T-Nation about gyno… I have been reading the articles here for about a year. I still have questions though…

I appear to have “natural” gyno? I work out and have been seriously for about 4 years. I am a bencher and I keep everything else in decent shape, in that I mean I am not fat nor do I carry a lot of fat.

I take different suppliments from GNC and places like that, but nothing that I don’t do my research on first to see what it stacks with and what it could interact with. I know that there are many things that I may not be thinking of when doing this, but I still try. I am in my early 30’s too…

I went to my doctor and then to a “specialist” that both did tests and questioned me to death (no pot and no steroids). They came back and said that I have to get surgery! All my levels are right on and they don?t see anything that would have caused it, so that’s it they don?t know so they told me to get surgery…

Not knowing that much about steroids and cycles and all… I have read about Nolvadex and things like it. I don?t want to take a get big steroid, I want to take something that will keep me from going under the knife…

So here is my question… what should I do? Take Nolvadex or something like it, or get surgery? Or is there something else that anyone can suggest? Thank you in advance for any help you can give…

Gyno cant be completely removed without surgery. There are some things that can minimize it but will not completely remove it.

There are plenty of OTC supplements/medicines that can cause gyno. Cant find a list that shows most of them. I will get back to you with it.

Thanks… I am sure that I will find something on that list that I have taken or been perscribed…

To add to this someone told me about this: www.gynecomastiatreatment.com does anyone know about this?

There was a thread on here a few months ago that had a good protocol for this. Using Letrozole in a taper dosing. As mentioned, you can’t completely get rid of it this way, but you can shrink it to where it would not be noticeable.

[quote]irish21 wrote:
Ok, to start… yes I have read many of the articles on T-Nation about gyno… I have been reading the articles here for about a year. I still have questions though…

I appear to have “natural” gyno? I work out and have been seriously for about 4 years. I am a bencher and I keep everything else in decent shape, in that I mean I am not fat nor do I carry a lot of fat.

I take different suppliments from GNC and places like that, but nothing that I don’t do my research on first to see what it stacks with and what it could interact with. I know that there are many things that I may not be thinking of when doing this, but I still try. I am in my early 30’s too…

I went to my doctor and then to a “specialist” that both did tests and questioned me to death (no pot and no steroids). They came back and said that I have to get surgery! All my levels are right on and they don?t see anything that would have caused it, so that’s it they don?t know so they told me to get surgery…

Not knowing that much about steroids and cycles and all… I have read about Nolvadex and things like it. I don?t want to take a get big steroid, I want to take something that will keep me from going under the knife…

So here is my question… what should I do? Take Nolvadex or something like it, or get surgery? Or is there something else that anyone can suggest? Thank you in advance for any help you can give…
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Here is that thread

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1461951

[quote]BMC85 wrote:

There are plenty of OTC supplements/medicines that can cause gyno. Cant find a list that shows most of them. I will get back to you with it.[/quote]

Lavender oil/essence has caused gyno in some boys and tea-tree oil has also been shown to be estrogenic. Those should be avoided.

A SERM should not be used long term. A short or moderate term might have some benefit that lasts for a reasonable amount of time, if not, the knife is always waiting.

It has been stated that the longer that gyno exists the more durable the tissues become and harder to clear up with an AI or SERM.

Irish21,

If your E2 levels are in mid or higher lab ranges, you could go for long term reduction with liquid anastrozole. Having E2 ‘withing normal range’ does not mean that some of those levels are not able to cause problems. An E2 level of 17-20pg/ml* would be a good target. You should get and retain copies of all lab work so that you have such information.

  • your lab units in use there may be different.