[quote]Airtruth wrote:
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
Why is it ridiculous? I don’t understand your criteria for a bodybuilder. If someone puts in the time in the gym and looks the part, but doesn’t compete, they’re not a bodybuilder, because they didn’t compete. And if someone does compete, but they don’t look great, they’re also not a bodybuilder, because they didn’t look the part. So you have to compete in a show, and do well? This is weird criteria because it’s so subjective. How well do you have to do? 4th place or better in a regional show? Is it that arbitrary? Is it just up to Yolo84 who is and who isn’t a bodybuilder? I’m absolutely serious about this, because I feel like your criteria for a bodybuilder is baseless.[/quote]
It’s not baseless, the reason people so vehemently disagree is because they like all the “lifestyle” talk. It is not meant as any kind of insult to the OP or anyone at all.
Yeah bodybuilding is subjective. To be a bodybuilder imo you need to compete and in competition display the requirements necessary for the event to some degree - size, proportion, symmetry and conditioning. So this discounts fat slobs like the guy posted. No, you don’t have to look like Frank Zane or something either. It’s common sense what I am talking about - e.g. Thoughts meets all these, even though he could be more conditioned or bigger or whatever. He also competes and has dieted for months and been exceptionally meticulous about all the aspects he willbe judged on (the 4 I just mentioned).
It is strange to me that guys get so defensive over this. It’s not an insult or saying you’re not dedicated or whatever. But equally, I find it flat out wrong for people to claim this status when they don’t deserve it and haven’t earned it.[/quote]
So how about this scenario: What if I stepped on a bodybuilding stage tomorrow, looking exactly as I do today, maybe with more of a tan or something so I looked even more the part, but I didn’t diet down. I’m obviously still a relatively low bodyfat, and while I wouldn’t win a competition anywhere, I would have competed, and by most standards, looked the part. Would I be a bodybuilder then? What if OP did the same thing? We don’t fit the fat slobs category that you mentioned earlier about the link posted. But we wouldn’t win a show either.[/quote]
Do you mean if you went through all the trouble of being a bodybuilder would you be a bodybuilder?
Not winning and doing what it takes to compete are two different things. Driving a fast car doesn’t make you a race car driver.[/quote]
YOLO said that actually competing in a bodybuilding competition wasn’t enough to qualify a person as a bodybuilder if the person doesn’t look great. I disagreed.