[quote]BostonBarrister wrote:
BostonBarrister wrote:
I’m referring to Social Security Cards of course – you can’t do much of anything without a Social Security Number, and all sorts of your personal information is attached.
nephorm wrote:
I agree, but the reason we are in that situation is that the American public was lied to. IIRC, we were told that we wouldn’t be required to give out those numbers for filling out non-SS related paperwork… yet government and private agencies alike routinely require you to provide them with it. And supposedly, a business or private person shouldn’t be able to get information using your SS number unless they have authorization. In theory.
One of my main concerns here is that the dept of Homeland Security shows a high interest in using RFID, which would allow remote sensors to read the card while it is still in your wallet. This troubles me. Imagine having a GPS on you that allows anyone to track exactly where you are at any time (although technically, many cell phones can be used in this way already).
Already in the UK, they have a plan to put RFID tags on automobiles with automatic readers placed along the highways. Ostensibly, this is just to catch speeders (in itself insidious); but it also means that if you are in a car in the UK, the government would know exactly where you are.
Further, the card will/could have all sorts of additional information in it… effectively allowing the federal government to create a national database through private businesses. Every time you walk into the grocery store, if they have a reader, they can get all sorts of nice information on you. No need for that frequent shopper card now, buddy, just swipe that national ID (or worse, you don’t even have to take it out of your pocket).
I encourage everyone to read up on RFID… this technology was developed, in part, to make shoplifting harder… so that they could easily track merchandise as it moved in a store. Think carefully if you want something like that on your body at all times.
nephorm,
While I agree with you that I don’t like stuff that stuck on to bills in general – and that goes from spending riders on stupid little pork projects to anything unrelated to the main topic of the bill, like when the Dems used to attach anti-Contra riders to all the bills in the 80s – that’s about where my worrying about this in the abstract ends.
If that technology is there, I fail to see what would stop the government from simply having it included in drivers’ licenses. And if you combine drivers’ licenses with Social Security cards, you basically have a national ID card now. With states’ requirements for attaining a drivers’ license or state ID coalescing, and with national databases and info sharing between the states and the feds rising, I just don’t see a big difference – other than easing the bureacratic administration of everything.
What would worry me more is if the technology weren’t at all supervised – which I doubt – I don’t think there would be a constant monitoring program, but rather something along the lines of how they can triangulate your cell phone if they have a reason to do so, which I think they need a court order for (but I really don’t know that for sure). What would also worry me is if I were required to carry and produce the ID at all times. Right now I need my license only to drive, and I don’t have a duty to produce it unless I’m stopped for violating some law. Or if they made it illegal for me to wrap my card in tinfoil…
So while I don’t like the way they’re going about it, the underlying concept doesn’t really bother me too much.[/quote]
BB:
I have to disagree with you on this one pal.
If they are able to have something like a national ID card without having one, then let them do it. The fact is they can’t. It is difficult for the federal government to obtain information with 50 different states (relative to drivers licenses) and that’s the way I’d like to keep it. I don’t want or need big brother tracking my every move! I find this entire national ID issue offensive and far to over reaching.
“Government does not fail to serve because it has to little power. It fails to serve because it has to much power!”
Ronald Reagan