[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
HoratioSandoval wrote:
How about for Group 1: The Performance Oriented Crowd:
Improve performance?
Strength translates into increased performance, if we’re talking about most field sports.
Sabastian525 wrote:
Step 1: “Just get em’ strong”
Step 2: “Just get em’ lean and ripped”
There, fixed.
Negative, thumbs down.
No fat housewive wants to learn how to do the big three lifts. They need to develop their mind-muscle connection (which is usually severely lacking) and learn how to target specific muscle groups by using machines. They don’t need to squat 200 lbs, 100 lbs, or even 40 lbs. They’ll be able to do bodyweight squats just fine once they lose their excess blubber.
HunterKiller wrote:
OP: They are being really nice to you…
You missed the boat.
Broad sweeping categories are a bad idea.
Lumping everyone into two groups is even worse.
There is nothing wrong with it if the generalizations are fundamentally accurate. The authors on this site do it all the time and no one complains.
HunterKiller wrote:
This is why Thibs so respected. From what I have gathered he is keenly aware that everyone is put together differently.
Everyones different. Some people need 30% protein, 40% carbs 30% fat. Some people need 10,000 calorie diets. Some need 70% protein 5% carbs 20%fat. Some people will have heart attacks if you give them a lot cholesterol. Some people will feel super awesome if you give them a lot of cholesterol. ect ect ect.
As with all things in life. You CANNOT know everything. You can always learn more. You will never know more then everyone else. If you think you know everything you will learn nothing.
Gosh, I’m afraid YOU missed the boat.
Haven’t you ever read a Westside article where they say, “shut the fuck up and train”?
Well, this article was meant to be interpreted in exactly the same context as that. It is about establishing BASIC RULES which are widely applicable to all people.
That One Guy wrote:
Ah isn’t that the truth. Nothing in life is black and white. It’s all grey…
Bullshit. That’s a pussy way of thinking.
Chris Colucci wrote:
Just to throw a stick into the bike spokes, I’d say that the majority of senior citizens would improve their quality of life and be more functional (a legit term in this context) by focusing on basic strength-building, rather than “doing lots of targetted isolation training on machines with high intensity intervals for fat loss.”
Training senior citizens is a thankless task. Listen, if you don’t know how to walk properly and you aren’t 9 months old, you need a doctor or physical therapist, not to waste my time and knowledge as a PT. I haven’t spent years studying the mechanisms of muscular hypertrophy to work with people who will never squat more than 5 lbs. There are people who deliberately sign up for this type of work. Nurses and Physician’s assistants. I’m not one of them. I put tons of effort into making my clients improve and, as such, I want to work with clients who are actually capable of improving.
However, I can agree with you that functional is a legit term in this context.
Chris Colucci wrote:
Dare I ask… in your mind, what would a “powerlifter’s workout” look like, and what would a “bodybuilder’s workout” look like?
That’s like saying “I cook eggs for breakfast and make sandwiches for lunch.” There are so many variations of eggs, sandwiches, powerlifting workouts, and bodybuilding workouts, that it’s almost counter-productive to be so vague.
It’s not vague at all, you are simply over-analyzing it.
I’m sure you’re aware of the fundamental differences between bodybuilding and powerlifting. Or, at least, bodybuilding and performance oriented training. Here they are:
Bodybuilders train muscles. Athletes train movements.
Bodybuilders train to failure. Soreness is the goal. Athletes stop short of failure. Soreness is to be avoided.
Bodybuilders isolate to the furthest extent possible. Athletes integrate to the further extent possible.
Bodybuilders use machines and isolation movements. Athletes use free weights and compounds.
Bodybuilders care about appearance first, function second (if at all). Athletes, the other way around.
Bodypart splits vs Full Body[/quote]
You will never squat, bench, or deadlift big weights doing tbt, you WILL innevitably not be able to recover from it. Popular splits for strength are upper/lower and pull/push/legs with some lower rep compound movements and some higher rep isolation or machine work. The only way this differs from bodybuilding is that they sometimes split it up more than that and can opt to go lower reps on some lifts or use moderate/high for everything.
pressing, pulling and squatting 3x a week isn’t any more “functional” than doing each once a week with a higher volume.