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My Progress So Far, Advice Wanted

Point of this thread is to have other people judge my progress and give feedback on it and what I should do from here. I’ll break this up into 2 posts.

Okay, so I started out 16 years old, 6 ft 1 180 lbs on October 28th. These were my lifts (in pounds):

Squat: 3x5 160
Bench 3x5 135
Deadlift: 1x5 185
Overhead press: 3x5 80
Power Clean: 3x5 115

I got up to 226 lbs by May 1st (so 6 months) but decided I was too fat (picutre links at end of post) and started cutting. Unfortunatly I strained a quad muscle the first week into my cut so I couldn’t do much cardio, and my squats and deadlifts instantly got weaker due to the strain (I lifted through the pain up until 2 weeks ago). I did low carb/high fat/high protein diet and used Bill Starr’s 5x5, which was what I was using to bulk until this point. Pretty much no cardio because of the quad strain, only incline walking on the treadmill for 20 minitues after the 3x weekly weight lifting sessions.

Anyway, now im about to turn 17 in 2 weeks, and im about 194 lbs with these as my stats:

38 inch stomach (down from 43 inch on May 1st)
Squat: 3 reps 275 lbs
Bench: 4 reps 170 lbs
Deadlift: 2 reps 360 lbs
Press: 3 reps 120 lbs
Power Cleans: 4 reps 175 lbs

I don’t have pictures of me at 180 lbs, but I took pictures of me at 226 and me at 194.

Me at 226 lbs:

Me at 194 lbs:

(I didn’t flex in any of the pictures, except for the last one at 194)

As you can see from the pictures of me now, im not ripped nor am I big. I look kind of average. I was hoping to get to a lower bf % then this (yes I wanted to get to the point where I could see my abs, sorry), but im sure many of you will tell me to stop cutting now that im not fat. I still have about a month left until football practice starts up, so I have time to cut to that point if I decide to. I would love to be able to see my abs for the first time in my life (I was a very fat kid), but I also know I don’t have much muscle, especially on my upper body. Maybe football practice itself will make me lose fat whether I want to or not, thats what I hear from a lot of football players.

If I start gaining weight again, I would probably switch to WS4SB and do my first upper/lower split. I would be doing this during football season though, so my gains might not be that good. I know they have a in-season training template, but I believe if I eat enough and sleep enough I can still train normally along with practice and see gains. Lifting at 6 am wouldn’t be fun, but whatever, people do it.

So what do you guys think, continue cutting or start eating more and change up my lifting routine with the hopes of packing on muscle (something tells me 99% of you are going to tell me to EAT!!!)? Do I need to do a transition back into eating carbs again or can I just start eating normally again?

I far from being a pro, but what is your bf%? You still look fat. Congrats on the progress though, I can see a difference. Keep up the hard work and don’t give up. I wish I had started at your age

Congrats on the progress though, you can tell a difference. I wish I had started at your age.

I don’t know my bf% unfortunately. I would like to know, but it seems like some work to get an accurate reading, so im not really going to bother.

[quote]fisch wrote:

So what do you guys think[/quote]

I think you should get 250+grams of protein a day, and lift heavy ass weights as many times as possible.

There needs to be more sweating under the bar. Good work so far, but now it’s time to upshift and bust nuts.

^ alright thats what I was thinking. Im not sure what sort of program to follow though. I need to look around for a different program though. Maybe 5/3/1 or WS4SB.

[quote]fisch wrote:
^ alright thats what I was thinking. Im not sure what sort of program to follow though. I need to look around for a different program though. Maybe 5/3/1 or WS4SB.[/quote]

Dont get caught up in fancy trendy workouts, most are just bs. I have made my best gains from a 4 day body split, add some supersets and drop sets in there and jack the intensity up as much as possible.