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My Labs 2 Years on TRT

Am 43
Here’s my protocol
115mg weekly split in 2. Subq.
Daily Cialis 5mg
I take 2 heart meds
An ARB and a BB. Low dose.
Daily multi
D3
Allopurinol for uric acid stones I get
1000mg metformin (I am not and was never even pre-diabetic) taking for benefits I read about and slight insulin resistance I had.
I take resvetrol capsules 2x a week.

I feel really good. I originally took dhea and I determined it gave me bloat.
I was doing 100 mg split in 2 a few months ago and I did not feel as good and total t at trough was in the 500 range. Now it’s on the 700s.
Any comments? Should I supp b12?



All that really matters if there are no red flags in blood work. TSH might be a little above optimal. Was this fasted?

Yes . Fasted.

Your triglycerides are high. Have you spoken to you doctor about these numbers?

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@johann77 I would like if you can give your perspective on the use of metformin for non diabetics?

Thank you.

Not sure why. But my BP is like 95/60.
I injected 70 mg instead of 60 Thursday afternoon. . I just started to up my dose to 140 from 120. I inject 2x a week.

Actually skipping my daily cialis so it does not lower my pressure more.

I mean last night I could not sleep cause I drank coffee at 230 pm. So I took like 20mg melatonin which did nothing. I can’t drink coffee but had the urge yesterday.

Any ideas why me pressure is that low all day today?
Usually am like 110-115 over 70s

I have a feeling it’s from the extra testosterone. Vasodilator.

@highpull

No, not the mechanism behind a 10mg dose increase causing it anyway. Blood pressure can drop in men as lipids improve, as visceral fat disappears, etc., however this is more likely seen in older men understandably and not dramatically overnight.

Are you on BP medicine?

Yeah . A beta blocker and ARB.
I woke up and it was fine. Wierd yesterday.i have a feeling it was the melatonin I took all night.

It’s possible as you get healthier you won’t need your BP meds.

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True. It depends on my cardiomyopathy.

Last echo did show me ejection fraction going to normal.

I take candesartan 4mg lowest dose . Actually has many benefits. I think I want to keep taking for life. Of course without hypotension. The cialis is something that lower pressure a bit to but an spoiled with that drug.
And the metoprolol I take is low dose to at 50mg.

I injected another 70 today. So I think I will be trying 140 a week for the first time. I was as 90 mg a week. 120 felt the best. Let’s see if I feel better at 140.

Ok boys. I went from about 112mg a week divided in 2. To 140 a week divided in 2.
I felt good before change but feel even better on 140. Makes me want to go higher… We see.
I take daily cialis, multi vitamin, extra d, quercetin and resvetrol 2x a week,
I take a BB and an ARB , and allopurinol. Also 1k metformin daily.
Triglycerides always sightly elevated along with prolactin.
@NH_Watts @highpull
Thanks for taking a look all of you. Ferritin ok?
Also free t calc put me at about 2.3 percent free t.

Labs look good.

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@highpull if you like at the first post you can see labs on 115mg. Testosterone basically the same as 140 mg. Feeling wise maybe a bit better on 140.

Would I go Back to 115?

I’d stay with that.

@highpull and others wishing to comment

I just took labs. Still waiting for full report.

My thyroid seems to be a little hypo.

I don’t feel any of the hypothyroidism symptoms I believe. Would you treat this in your opinion? And either way would you use armour or just t4?

My dad is hypo and has been using synthroid for many years.

Btw my prolactin has been slightly elevated since I started TRT You can look above at my other two labs if you wish.

Thanks.

No.

I’d want to see fT3, but I use T3/T4 combinations compounded.

I’ll get free t3 back within a couple days.

Yeah the best I could do withmy doctor is get armour thyroid they definitely would not consider the compounded one. I’m glad at least she considers armour thyroid.

Btw @highpull I really appreciate you getting back to me and it’s really nice of you to take the time out of your day.

I’ll tag you when I post the rest of my results.

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Ok. So here are my thyroid numbers @highpull

Tsh 3.3
Free t3 2.9 (2-4.4)
Free t4 .98 (.82-1.77)

I read hypothyroidism can cause slightly elevated prolactin which I have. Any thoughts?

Seeing the free t3 now, should my thyroid be treated.

Here my other numbers:

While I’ve given thyroid to many with numbers like yours, even some with significantly better, I probably would not in your case. That’s not in stone though, if you wanted to try it, I would go along.