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My First Cycle...


#1

Ok, So I'm new here and new to this stuff in general, 28 y/o on first cycle. I've read a lot about this stuff since starting which is probably dumb as hell, but I'm an adventurous guy.

I met a guy who put me in contact with some test e and I've been doing it at 300mg/week (.5mL 2x per week with 300mg=1mL). He told me to start at that level to feel out how my body reacts. I'm on week 7 of 10 weeks and around week 5 my nipples were constantly itchy and tender. I call up the guy and he tells me a place where I can find exemestane and says take 12.5mg on mon, wed and fri. I do it but my nipples start growing so I started browsing online and see people saying to do the stane daily and that SERM's are what I need, so I go to the same place and get some tamoxifen and do 40mg ED and up the exemestane to 12.5 ED on the 4th day all abnormalities go away. So on the 5th day I think "I better not kill my estrogen levels, the stuff I've read says that's terrible"

So I cut the exemestane back to mon, wed, fri and drop the tamoxifen to 20mg ED. After about 3 days my pecs are aching for no apparent reason and I look in the mirror, they're abnormally puffy and enlarged I bumped myself back to 12.5mg exemstane ED and 40mg tamoxifen ED about 4 days ago and the pain/tenderness/puffiness is mostly gone.

How would you guys recommend I proceed? My guy told me to go back online and order letro but I'm wondering if I can use the stuff I've already paid $150 for instead of buying something new.

Also, any advice on PCT would be great. Like I said, I jumped into this with no real knowledge of it other than knowing a guy who's mostly helpful and gives me advice as I go but I think it's time to figure some stuff out. Also, I don't think the guy really cares about my side effects, when I call him up he just tells me what to order and asks if I want some tren to stack, which I'm sure would make my situation 10x worse given my inexperience.

I'm sure anyone who's still reading is thinking "what an idiot" ...you're probably right. Could you help me be a little bit smarter moving forward, at least on this subject?


#2

I think Letro is the correct thing to use but i do not have the knowledge to advise on how to dose it etc. You can use your Tamoxifen for 4-6weeks for PCT. If you are not using HCG during your cycle my may want to look into including some at the end.

If you look at the top of the forum there is a Gyno sticky that talks about Letro.

There is also a Steroid Newbie Cycle Planning sticky that covers PCT.


#3

[quote]That1Guy wrote:
Ok, So I’m new here and new to this stuff in general, 28 y/o on first cycle. I’ve read a lot about this stuff since starting which is probably dumb as hell, but I’m an adventurous guy.

I met a guy who put me in contact with some test e and I’ve been doing it at 300mg/week (.5mL 2x per week with 300mg=1mL). He told me to start at that level to feel out how my body reacts. I’m on week 7 of 10 weeks and around week 5 my nipples were constantly itchy and tender. I call up the guy and he tells me a place where I can find exemestane and says take 12.5mg on mon, wed and fri. I do it but my nipples start growing so I started browsing online and see people saying to do the stane daily and that SERM’s are what I need, so I go to the same place and get some tamoxifen and do 40mg ED and up the exemestane to 12.5 ED on the 4th day all abnormalities go away. So on the 5th day I think “I better not kill my estrogen levels, the stuff I’ve read says that’s terrible”

So I cut the exemestane back to mon, wed, fri and drop the tamoxifen to 20mg ED. After about 3 days my pecs are aching for no apparent reason and I look in the mirror, they’re abnormally puffy and enlarged I bumped myself back to 12.5mg exemstane ED and 40mg tamoxifen ED about 4 days ago and the pain/tenderness/puffiness is mostly gone.

How would you guys recommend I proceed? My guy told me to go back online and order letro but I’m wondering if I can use the stuff I’ve already paid $150 for instead of buying something new.

Also, any advice on PCT would be great. Like I said, I jumped into this with no real knowledge of it other than knowing a guy who’s mostly helpful and gives me advice as I go but I think it’s time to figure some stuff out. Also, I don’t think the guy really cares about my side effects, when I call him up he just tells me what to order and asks if I want some tren to stack, which I’m sure would make my situation 10x worse given my inexperience.

I’m sure anyone who’s still reading is thinking “what an idiot” …you’re probably right. Could you help me be a little bit smarter moving forward, at least on this subject?[/quote]

You confused your dealer with a doctor. Time to PCT and start researching. I just can’t comprehend why people would start injecting something without doing some basic google research. Like 5 minutes, honestly.

And don’t touch Tren, mmmk?


#4

the half-life of Aromasin is 8 hours, so EOD dosing does not work well for lots of people (this doesn’t mean that it doesn’t suppress estrogen for longer, as it does, but anyway…)

i would not get letro, as it isn’t gonna do anything that aromasin can’t for you, at least at this point.

i’d continue the 12.5 mg/day ED dosing of aromasin, and lower the nolva to 20 mg/day. see how that works for ya, and then go from there…

^by the way, that will work pretty well for PCT, too.