[quote]plantshaman wrote:
Thanks forcedrep, I got some cidoteston and arimidex that I am going to run a cycle with. I also have some Nolvadex to keep on hand just in case. With my estradiol already above normal levels I probably need to watch for gyno after I stop the arimidex when the cycle ends.
One question though, if after 12 weeks of Test E at 500mg a week combined with arimidex .25mg EOD gyno was to appear and I had to take Nolva for a couple weeks, would that take away from the effectiveness of this technique for obtaining TRT? In other words would running 2 weeks of nolvadex at say 20mg a day be the equivalent of pct?[/quote]
If you are wanting to knock down your HPTA to get low labs, you basically need to do a cycle with a botched PCT. You need to get all of the gear out of your system before the labs. At that point, what is repressing? Nolvadex will increase your LH production. If LH is tested, that will show up. If there is LH, your testes will be making some T. If you are HPTA repressed all through your cycle and your testes have shrunk, then they will not as much T until they physically recover. During your cycle, you can use adex to avoid gyno, then stop to allow E to build up to repressive levels later.
If you want HPTA repression, you can do that with 100mg of T per week.
When you get labs done seeking TRT eligibly, a doctor should be looking at the labs and your symptoms. If you are vital and muscular, that does not confirm the labs. If you have acne, that indicates good testosterone status. You really need to present with poor labs along with consistent physical and mental symptoms. The physical symptoms need to observable. The effect of T will increase your physical vitality. If E is not elevated, then your mental vitality will also increase. This vitality is from altered activity at the cellular level. Washing out E for 3 weeks will not lead the a large drop in vitality.
A cycle of 100 or 500mg/wk will improve your skin tone and make you look younger as any lost collagen levels are restored. There may aslo be a loss of flab around the gut. Facial and body hair may increase.
With 500mg/wk, adex at .25 mg EOD will be useless. You need at least twice that. Maybe you intend .25mg EOD to allow for elevated E. For normal cycle intent, .5mg EOD is needed to avoid gyno, but also to maintain libido and to get the best anabolic response. Many do not understand this and have a belief system that using an AI or SERM before PCT is only needed if gyno becomes obvious. Most information that you find on cycles is wrong by omission.
The dose of a competitive AI such as Arimidex/anastrozole needs to be scaled to ones serum T levels. 25mg EOD is .875 mg/wk. That is really not enough for TRT guys on 100mg test cyp per week. With 5 times more T, especially for you, E levels will be out of control.
These things need to be made clear as some will read this thread and get the wrong impression as your intention to do everything wrong may not be obvious. I also do not like the idea that some will read this and copy your intent and methods.
There are other ways to repress the HPTA, but I will not talk about them.