I have read a lot on people giving dogs deca, ok great for his joints, but does nothing for his low test level.
can anyone help or know where i can ask for help
Why so serious?
feed him meat and exercise him more? also cute
Funnily enough I know someone who has administered test to their dog and reported great results. I suppose it needs to be done according to the dogs body weight and proportionate to a low HRT dose (I wouldn’t want to see a pit bull with roid rage LOL) and a longer acting test would be easier to reduce the frequency of injections.
I would be reluctant to recommend a dose but common sense would dictate it starts low so you can see how he responds.
Potentially stupid question: Is he neutered?
this post can’t be serious… deca for dogs?
How about looking at his diet, quality and quantity…
don’t feed pets Pedigree, Iams, Science Diet, Beneful and the like to start.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
We rescued an old STB who was so malnourished and weak, he couldn’t even get up the back steps into the house.
After his diarhea had settled but he wasn’t getting any stronger, I decided to inject him with a long-acting testosterone blend.
Within a week he was literally springing onto the couch, and seemed a much happier beast. There was zero negative behavioural effect, even around our other SBT. When weighed at the vets, he had put on 3kg, not of fat.
After roughly 5 weeks I noticed another decline in his physical ability, which I confirmed with my fiancee. Since I know she would have prevaricated, I took it upon myself to once again administer a modest dose of test.
Once again, behaviour/energy was improved, within just a few days.
Now some people might consider this unethical or irresponsible, but personally I consider it a win-win situation. The dog has better quality of life and the owners get to enjoy their pet a little more.
BBB[/quote]
Interesting and awesome.
[quote]John Romaniello wrote:
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
We rescued an old STB who was so malnourished and weak, he couldn’t even get up the back steps into the house.
After his diarhea had settled but he wasn’t getting any stronger, I decided to inject him with a long-acting testosterone blend.
Within a week he was literally springing onto the couch, and seemed a much happier beast. There was zero negative behavioural effect, even around our other SBT. When weighed at the vets, he had put on 3kg, not of fat.
After roughly 5 weeks I noticed another decline in his physical ability, which I confirmed with my fiancee. Since I know she would have prevaricated, I took it upon myself to once again administer a modest dose of test.
Once again, behaviour/energy was improved, within just a few days.
Now some people might consider this unethical or irresponsible, but personally I consider it a win-win situation. The dog has better quality of life and the owners get to enjoy their pet a little more.
BBB[/quote]
Interesting and awesome. [/quote]
x2 but OP, maybe try the steroid forum? In general you will find more steroid knowledge there, potentially increasing your chance at a knowledgeable response to your dog question.
I also agree with the diet and exercise sentiment. Feed him real food, not the bagged or can stuff.
He’ll probably eat any kind of meat you cook for yourself, throw an extra breast or chop on the grill for him. And I’ve found with my dogs, If I blend fruits and veggies with fish oil they will eat it.
And of course adequate exercise. I’m not a dog expert but I do have some bulldogs trained to catch big game and they do well on real food and intense exercise. Never had an issue.
I guess it makes sense there could be some low T dogs though, never really thought about it.
Stop it with this nonsense.
Change his diet. Exercise him more. If you can’t work him more, buy a canine treadmill.
smh @ any excuse to pull out the AAS guns a-blazin’.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Stop it with this nonsense.
Change his diet. Exercise him more. If you can’t work him more, buy a canine treadmill.
smh @ any excuse to pull out the AAS guns a-blazin’. [/quote]
exactly. Any serious AAS replies in this thread make me sad
Not many people know this, but Dorian Yates had a pit with similar issues. He also gave his pit AAS and the dog did much better. I have it on good authority that this is what he administered his pet:
Week Sustanon 250 Winstrol Dianabol HGH Insulin
1 2000mgs/week 200mgs/day 100mgs/day 12 IUs/day 10 IUs/day
2 2000mgs/week 200mgs/day 100mgs/day 12 IUs/day 10 IUs/day
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8 2000mgs/week 200mgs/day 100mgs/day 12 IUs/day 10 IUs/day
9 2000mgs/week 200mgs/day 100mgs/day 12 IUs/day 10 IUs/day
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12 2000mgs/week 200mgs/day 100mgs/day 12 IUs/day 10 IUs/day
[quote]Test Icicle wrote:
Not many people know this, but Dorian Yates had a pit with similar issues. He also gave his pit AAS and the dog did much better. I have it on good authority that this is what he administered his pet:
Week Sustanon 250 Winstrol Dianabol HGH Insulin
1 2000mgs/week 200mgs/day 100mgs/day 12 IUs/day 10 IUs/day
2 2000mgs/week 200mgs/day 100mgs/day 12 IUs/day 10 IUs/day
3 2000mgs/week 200mgs/day 100mgs/day 12 IUs/day 10 IUs/day
4 2000mgs/week 200mgs/day 100mgs/day 12 IUs/day 10 IUs/day
5 2000mgs/week 200mgs/day 100mgs/day 12 IUs/day 10 IUs/day
6 2000mgs/week 200mgs/day 100mgs/day 12 IUs/day 10 IUs/day
7 2000mgs/week 200mgs/day 100mgs/day 12 IUs/day 10 IUs/day
8 2000mgs/week 200mgs/day 100mgs/day 12 IUs/day 10 IUs/day
9 2000mgs/week 200mgs/day 100mgs/day 12 IUs/day 10 IUs/day
10 2000mgs/week 200mgs/day 100mgs/day 12 IUs/day 10 IUs/day
11 2000mgs/week 200mgs/day 100mgs/day 12 IUs/day 10 IUs/day
12 2000mgs/week 200mgs/day 100mgs/day 12 IUs/day 10 IUs/day
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lololololol
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
We rescued an old STB who was so malnourished and weak, he couldn’t even get up the back steps into the house.
After his diarhea had settled but he wasn’t getting any stronger, I decided to inject him with a long-acting testosterone blend.
Within a week he was literally springing onto the couch, and seemed a much happier beast. There was zero negative behavioural effect, even around our other SBT. When weighed at the vets, he had put on 3kg, not of fat.
After roughly 5 weeks I noticed another decline in his physical ability, which I confirmed with my fiancee. Since I know she would have prevaricated, I took it upon myself to once again administer a modest dose of test.
Once again, behaviour/energy was improved, within just a few days.
Now some people might consider this unethical or irresponsible, but personally I consider it a win-win situation. The dog has better quality of life and the owners get to enjoy their pet a little more.
BBB[/quote]
What dose did you give him? I’d guesstimate 25mg a week would effect a decent improvement?
[quote]caveman101 wrote:
feed him meat and exercise him more? also cute[/quote]
i walk him almost 2 hours a day and i got him a puppy to ply with and a treadmill to run on. I give him wellness which is, $70 per bag of diet dog food, believe me this is my final option for his weight problem.
Find a veterinary specialist for your dog perhaps? Seems to me that the off topic section of a supplement site is not the place to be seeking advice.
also i havent given him anything, i was asking, and not for opionons btw, but for answers or a place i can get answers. thanks everyone.
[quote]battle_axe wrote:
also i havent given him anything, i was asking, and not for opionons btw, but for answers or a place i can get answers. thanks everyone. [/quote]
Haha, I’m going to guess… a vet.
we did give my recently-passad german shepherd prescribed steroids from the vet in the last month of her life, and it was like she was 5 years younger - im not averse to medication, get a vet to look over him. I think that ÂŁ50 per bag of dog food may actually better spent once you get a proffesional opinion
OP – If I may ask, it seems the vet did a reasonably detailed work-up if the vet tested for thyroid levels. So, assuming that everything else is cleared up (no cancers, no joint issues, no other obvious animal diseases) – when the vet mentioned low test, did you ask her about supplementation/test replacement? I ask because I think that anything the vet could offer would be a lot cheaper than anabolics for humans (especially if you’re getting them on the less-than-official market). If you asked, what was her reply?
Incidentally, has the vet checked for food allergies?
For more pointed advice, check a site such as just answers.com – look at the vets, find one that seems amenable to or experienced with this type of issue, and ask them.
He is almost halfway thru his life. Give him a break for Christ’s sake. 5lbs lousy ass pounds. Shooting him up is ridiculous. I’m with BG on this more exercise, less treats. He looks incredibly healthy in the pic. Don’t fuck with him. Change of weather can effect them too. Also could be you deflecting something that he has picked on.
Let him enjoy his life, no matter how he wants to live it.
