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My Biotest Museum

I have enjoyed many of Biotest’s products throughout the years, and I have stockpiled many supplements. In my arsenal, I have: 2 tubs of Classic Grow! MRP, 2 tubs of the new Low Carb Grow!, 4 tubs of Surge, 1 tub Power Drive, 3 bottles of Myostat, 6 bottles of 3x 4-AD-EC, 2 bottles of original HOT-ROX, 6 bottles of MAG-10 cinnamon flavored, 1 pack of Grow! when it came in boxes of 20, 1 bottle of Methoxy-7 LIQUID!!!, 1 bottle of RED KAT, 1 bottle of the original TRIBEX, 1 bottle of original MD6, 2 bottles of “new” MD6, 2 bottles of T2, and three bottles of T2Pro. Not pictured is a bottle each of Androsol and Nandrosol that I threw out because they leaked and crusted up the sprayer. Attached are a few pics of the Starkdog Arsenal; sorry, but my lens was dirty, hence some blurry pics. -The Starkdog

Here is a close-up shot of my MAG-10 and 4-AD-EC collection. I should cryo-store this stuff so it lasts longer. -The Starkdog


Next we have the extinct collection of MD6, T2 and T2Pro. The bottle of MD6 standing is the original MD6 with Norephederine. It is still as potent as it was on day1. Also, the original T2 is just as potent as it was when it was coming straight from Biotest’s labs. The most historical piece, however, is the un-opened bottle of Methoxy-7 liquid. It is amazing how Methoxy has changed in 5 years. It will be amazing what Tim Patterson and the crew will come up with in the next 5 years. -The Starkdog

Jesus christ Biotest used to sell EVERYTHING. God damn ban fucked it over, maybe they should start making it and selling it privately or underground, cause I’d sure like to try some of that stuff.

My present stash.

I found some old liquid Methoxy-7 and even some Ribose C, if any one remembers Biotest’s creatine product. I chunked it all because of expiration dates. I still have some Androsal spray though.

I’ve got Alpha Male comin!

I bet threads like this bring big smiles to the faces of Biotest employees

I’m sure this question has been answered before, but what is the reason for no creatine from Biotest.

Cy could probably tell you that one.

[quote]allout wrote:
I’m sure this question has been answered before, but what is the reason for no creatine from Biotest.[/quote]

I’m sure one of the Biotest guys could answer this better.

IMO, why make it?

There is nothing special that can be done with it. Plain micronized C-Monohydrate is all you need. Throw it in your Surge afterwards and you’ve got everything you need.

Save the resources for stuff like the new EFA supplement.

[quote]TriGWU wrote:
allout wrote:
I’m sure this question has been answered before, but what is the reason for no creatine from Biotest.

I’m sure one of the Biotest guys could answer this better.

IMO, why make it?

There is nothing special that can be done with it. Plain micronized C-Monohydrate is all you need. Throw it in your Surge afterwards and you’ve got everything you need.

Save the resources for stuff like the new EFA supplement.[/quote]

Granted this is true, and while I don’t know the numbers behind it, a creatine product by Biotest would be extremely marketable, especially if it sold for the same or less then most other companies sold their creatine product. In short, while I again do not know the specific numbers, I have a hard time imagining that this would in turn not be profitable for Biotest, which would in turn lead to more money for research.

[quote]hoosierdaddy wrote:
TriGWU wrote:
allout wrote:
I’m sure this question has been answered before, but what is the reason for no creatine from Biotest.

I’m sure one of the Biotest guys could answer this better.

IMO, why make it?

There is nothing special that can be done with it. Plain micronized C-Monohydrate is all you need. Throw it in your Surge afterwards and you’ve got everything you need.

Save the resources for stuff like the new EFA supplement.

Granted this is true, and while I don’t know the numbers behind it, a creatine product by Biotest would be extremely marketable, especially if it sold for the same or less then most other companies sold their creatine product. In short, while I again do not know the specific numbers, I have a hard time imagining that this would in turn not be profitable for Biotest, which would in turn lead to more money for research.
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I see what you are saying… but…

Would Biotest really want to start jumping into every mainstream product? Next thing you know people will ask for Nitric Oxide and Glutamine. They could sell it cheaper but in the end they might have to resort to the competitive nature of these other companies we all hate just to make the production worthwhile. Creatine is a “big market” but it is also covered by every other company.

There are better ways to get Biotest some research money. If you get a box of 36 bars just hand out one to someone you know is looking for a good bar. I got my 2 cases and handed out two to friends of mine. Instant gratification…thats two more customers right there.

You need to address a market where people have a reason to buy off the internet. Biotest thrives on supplements that go above and beyond the competition. The plain fact of creatine that is the same but “cheaper” won’t attract lazy people who’d assume pay an extra $5 to pick it up at the store. Hell, people used to pay $10-15 more for Surge just so they didn’t have to order it off the internet.

[quote]allout wrote:
I’m sure this question has been answered before, but what is the reason for no creatine from Biotest.[/quote]

regular creapure creatine is already of good price and quality. laters pk

[quote]allout wrote:
I’m sure this question has been answered before, but what is the reason for no creatine from Biotest.[/quote]

We don’t generally make a product unless we can do it lots better than what’s on the market.

Granted, we haven’t looked at creatine too much, but unless we came up with something that’s revolutionary, we’d save our resources for creating stuff that hasn’t been done before.

That cinnamon MAG-10 was great. First stuff from Biotest I ever tried.
I think I need a hankee:(

Man if shipping didnt add %50 to the cost of the products I would have something comparable:( dream dream lol.