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Musical Mt. Rushmore


#1

Three options:

Give me your 4 musicians (all have to be known for same instrument)
4 bands
or
4 albums

(super hard mode: 4 songs)

You would put on your Mt Rushmore. (Shit put up all three lists if you want.)

I'll go First:

1) Hendrix
2) Duane
3) Page
4) Van Halen (but reserve the right to change this later)

1) Allman Bros
2) The Dead (even though I can't stand them)

Still working on the rest.


#2

Jesus, you could really swap Page out for any of the British Invasion guys, Harrison, Richards, Dude From the Who…


#3


#4

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Jesus, you could really swap Page out for any of the British Invasion guys, Harrison, Richards, Dude From the Who… [/quote]

I’d have to vehemently disagree and state that Jimmy Page could play circles around everyone you mentioned. There is a discussion to be had between Page, Clapton, and Hendrix but you can not “swap” out Jimmy Page for anyone.


#5

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Jesus, you could really swap Page out for any of the British Invasion guys, Harrison, Richards, Dude From the Who… [/quote]

I’d have to vehemently disagree and state that Jimmy Page could play circles around everyone you mentioned. There is a discussion to be had between Page, Clapton, and Hendrix but you can not “swap” out Jimmy Page for anyone. [/quote]

Fair enough about Page. (If I was to argue, which I won’t, you’re right, it would be that Richards would have been famous in a power trio if he had wanted it, IMO.)

But neither him nor Clapton touch Jimi. Jimi is the Jesus Christ of Rock Guitar.

That said, even though in real life Clapton is a god as well, I feel he’s over-rated commercially. I’m sorta a douchebag hipster about it, but I’m not a big Clapton fan. Shit I’d put Garcia over him, and loath the Dead.


#6

I’m having this convo in two different places, but shit I’d put early Dickey Betts in front of Clapton without question. Older, drunk and drug wasted Betts, not so much. But early 70’s Betts… Yes


#7

1 - Paul Wall
2 - Snow
3 - Bubba Sparxx
4 - Vanilla Ice

This is the Mt. Rushmore of bad white rappers.


#8

1)Hendrix (undisputable)
2)Allman
3)Van Halen
4)BB King or Clapton

Page gets bumped because of all the plagiarism issues. Most of his best stuff has had to have extra credits added to it.


#9

You have to have King, Johnson, or Berry on the Rushmore for their contributions to the evolution of guitar playing alone.


#10

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
You have to have King, Johnson, or Berry on the Rushmore for their contributions to the evolution of guitar playing alone. [/quote]

I put BB in “performer” or “singer” before guitar player, and I know that amounts to blasphemy, but he didn’t, ever, play chords, lol.

A specialist? Sure, and a legend certainly, but put up next to the others who were the whole package?

You’re right about Berry. I’ll take off Eddie…


#11

Stevie Ray Vaughan
Joe Satriani
Russ Parrish (:D)
Jimi Hendrix


#12

Good thread idea, Beans. Clapton, Jimi, Jimmy, and Stevie. Duane Allman would be in there if I had room for a fifth.


#13

[quote]smh_23 wrote:
Good thread idea, Beans. Clapton, Jimi, Jimmy, and Stevie. Duane Allman would be in there if I had room for a fifth.[/quote]

Show me a clip of Clapton coming close and I won’t argue that Duane blows his doors off.

Shit, Dickey smokes Clapton here too.


#14

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]smh_23 wrote:
Good thread idea, Beans. Clapton, Jimi, Jimmy, and Stevie. Duane Allman would be in there if I had room for a fifth.[/quote]

Show me a clip of Clapton coming close and I won’t argue that Duane blows his doors off.

Shit, Dickey smokes Clapton here too. [/quote]


#15

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]smh_23 wrote:
Good thread idea, Beans. Clapton, Jimi, Jimmy, and Stevie. Duane Allman would be in there if I had room for a fifth.[/quote]

Show me a clip of Clapton coming close and I won’t argue that Duane blows his doors off.

Shit, Dickey smokes Clapton here too. [/quote]


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You’re going to have to do better than that. Blows his doors off in like 36 bars.


#16

Different strokes for different folks, I guess Beans. I couldn’t put him on Rushmore yet, but John Mayer… “that boy good” <coming to america quote.


#17

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Show me a clip of Clapton coming close and I won’t argue that Duane blows his doors off.

Shit, Dickey smokes Clapton here too. [/quote]

What a solo should be (the second one): not too long, blunt-traumatic and sharp at the same time (like being punched while being stabbed). Every note is perfect – neither one more nor one fewer could improve it. The defense rests. But, for the jury’s entertainment:


#18

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Show me a clip of Clapton coming close and I won’t argue that Duane blows his doors off.

Shit, Dickey smokes Clapton here too. [/quote]

What a solo should be (the second one): not too long, blunt-traumatic and sharp at the same time (like being punched while being stabbed). Every note is perfect – neither one more nor one fewer could improve it. The defense rests. But, for the jury’s entertainment:

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You’re not even trying here. Come on man

(I mean, It’s pretty obvious I’m a Duane/Allman Bros super fanboy, but as for Clapton, he’s god for sure, but overrated IMO.)


#19

But to be fair, ways in which Clapton is better than Duane:

  1. Diversity. A lot of this comes with age, and much more significant commercial success (while alive), but Clapton’s range in incorporating genres makes Duane look like a lost kid in a garage.

  2. Vocals… While not a top tier crooner like BB, still a very captivating voice

  3. Influence. Can’t say that Clapton, even today, doesn’t have a much more significant influence on Rock than Duane did or likely ever will, knowingly.

  4. Consistency. It is well documented Duane never really played the same shit twice. He was (and the band as a whole is/was) very much in the improvisional (that’s not a word?) jazz mode and each iteration of a song, live, sounded different than the last time. Some of whom were straight up shit compared to studio and the cream of the crop live tracks put on record.

That said, people I’ll go out of my way to listen to before having Clapton brought to me:
Slash
SRV
Santana
Van Halen (and I’m not a hair metal or shredding for the sake of shredding guy)
Jeff Beck
David Gilmore (I’m a total hipster about PF, and dislike them too, lol)
Hendrix
Mark Knophler (super under rated)
Richards… I mean who doesn’t love the stones?
Angus Young

so on and so forth. There is a decent amount of commercial crap and stadium rock in there, and many here were influenced by Clapton, but maybe I’m just burnt out on dude… He just doesn’t do it for me.


#20

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

You’re not even trying here. Come on man

(I mean, It’s pretty obvious I’m a Duane/Allman Bros super fanboy, but as for Clapton, he’s god for sure, but overrated IMO.)
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I love Pickett/Allman’s Hey Jude cover, and I love Allman. But I’m a Clapton super fanboy, so I suppose that this is one of those de gustibus non est disputandum matters. All I could really do would be to re-post Crossroads, because that is the fuckin I am that I am of solos IMO.