[quote]GMH454 wrote:
Krollmonster wrote:
GMH454 wrote:
have watched OL training and find they have low eccentric strength, very visible when they squat (bounce out of bottom) their knees may last longer if they worked some eccentric occasionally.
OLers bounce out of the bottom as a technique aid, not because they lack eccentric strength. Also, due to the speed element of the sport, they tend to ride their squats down rather than try to do a ‘negative’. I don’t think it is possible to recover from a max clean like a ‘negative’.
Have to absorb the weight on the catch before exploding, (As in the jerk), so how can they have poor eccentric strength?
What you say is correct, but when they squat, not squat clean. they go down to above parrallel and just drop. I think if they had to stop at parrallel and recover the weights would be much, much less, maybe you can try it and let me know.
I also think this is the reason for the amount of knee problems, they have, and before someone tells me squats don’t hurt the knees, I think the people who make cortisone shots would go out of business without OLers.
The comment on the jerk relates to “specificty of training”. Developing good ecccentric strength (ie lower with control) for around 4-6" does not really relate to a parrallel or below, in the squat.
OLers do not need high levels of eccentric strength, and therefore do not waste time training for it.[/quote]
Thanks for your reply.
How do you explain the ability of a person to catch a heavy power clean, and slow it down without riding it down to a full squat? Or how about doing a heavy drop snatch or overhead squat?
Check out these vids for examples of what I mean. Yes, they are me and I am no superstar, just the most accessible examples I can get.
Do you happen to do any eccentric strength training for squats? That has gotten beat the body up a bit! ahha Some of my friends would occasionally do over 100% front squat negative into the rack pins, then back squat it up. Sounded very hard!