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Muscle Snatch Estimate Off of Snatch/DL?


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Any idea of an estimate as a % of snatch/deadlift that would predict the muscle snatch? For skilled lifters I would assume their muscle snatch would be comparatively worse, as they are better at diving under the bar during the traditional snatch.

Lu xiaojun


Muscle Snatch 110kg (maybe more?)
Power Snatch ~150kg
Snatch 176kg
Deadlift??? I've never seen him deadlift but he can back squat ~300kg
Overhead press ??? Don't think I've seen any Chinese weightlifters do much pressing but I could be wrong.

Koklyaev


Muscle Snatch (clean grip) 160kg
Snatch 210kg?
Deadlift ~430kg
Press 3x162.5kg (1 RM ~175kg)


Spencer Moorman and Jon North discussing the muscle snatch, at 3:00 they mention their bests of 120kg and 95kg respectively. I haven't seen any videos of them doing strict pressing either.

Jon North 95kg
Snatch 170kg
Deadlift 265kg?

Spencer Moorman 120kg
Snatch 163kg?
Deadlift ???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjICG0RI0I4 (5:00 in)
130 for a fairly easy double

Snatch 206
Deadlift ~300

Deadlift ? 37% 36% ? 43% avg 39%
Snatch 63% 76% 56% 74% 63% avg 66% (Interesting that the bigger guys have comparatively better muscle snatches and the smaller guys have better full snatches.

Anyone want to share their numbers?


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[quote]geodude wrote:
Any idea of an estimate as a % of snatch/deadlift that would predict the muscle snatch? For skilled lifters I would assume their muscle snatch would be comparatively worse, as they are better at diving under the bar during the traditional snatch.

Lu xiaojun


Muscle Snatch 110kg (maybe more?)
Power Snatch ~150kg
Snatch 176kg
Deadlift??? I’ve never seen him deadlift but he can back squat ~300kg
Overhead press ??? Don’t think I’ve seen any Chinese weightlifters do much pressing but I could be wrong.

Koklyaev


Muscle Snatch (clean grip) 160kg
Snatch 210kg?
Deadlift ~430kg
Press 3x162.5kg (1 RM ~175kg)


Spencer Moorman and Jon North discussing the muscle snatch, at 3:00 they mention their bests of 120kg and 95kg respectively. I haven’t seen any videos of them doing strict pressing either.

Jon North 95kg
Snatch 170kg
Deadlift 265kg?

Spencer Moorman 120kg
Snatch 163kg?
Deadlift ???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjICG0RI0I4 (5:00 in)
130 for a fairly easy double

Snatch 206
Deadlift ~300

Deadlift ? 37% 36% ? 43% avg 39%
Snatch 63% 76% 56% 74% 63% avg 66% (Interesting that the bigger guys have comparatively better muscle snatches and the smaller guys have better full snatches.

Anyone want to share their numbers?[/quote]

Hard to make a comparison between elite Olympic athletes and your avg joe trainers. These guys… Lu, klokov as seen in the videos have thoracic strength levels that is just not found elsewhere.

Point being, it probably has more to do with your overall strength level than ability. It’s not a technique movement. Your power lifters out at juggernaut squat 700# and snatch 330. With their muscle snatch being 330# or 100%.

I will try and test for a max this week and offer you something. I am thinking 75%.