I do appreciate non-BS articles of any sort on physical training. I’m more of a “stay in shape” cross training buff now, but any article or conversation - whether it be about running, bodyweight training, or whatever - I choose to read or engage in, respectively, is BS free.
However, I do think there has to be SOME middle ground. Too many people have emailed me on here and personally and on Facebook saying they also were disappointed that they didn’t get the results they sought when they simply “ate big” and “lifted big” which is about as complicated advice that Professor X has offered concerning how OTHERS (besides himself) should train. (I’m not saying this in disrespect to X, but that’s what I’ve seen.) (Quote)
I agree, blanket statements shouldn’t be made. But on a BODYBUILDING forum. Bodybuilding training and bodybuilding diet should be the norm. Most bodybuilders did not eat 3000 calories a day to get huge and if they did they are so genetically gifted that they have no need for any information on this site. I am no a Professor X nut hugger but Ive never seen him recommend a certain amount of calories to anyone. His advice is eat whatever way you have to to make progress in BODYBUILDING.
Fact is, MANY newbies don’t know what program to train hard with and they don’t have to eat so goddamn much to get big. Why does a buck-60 non-athlete who puts in about 5 to 7 hours of activity per week have to eat so much to gain? Some of the food combinations and items recommended for “big eating” contain an added THOUSANDS of calories. Most male newbs will do fine with starting at 3,000 calories and taking it from there.
I think your getting off topic here.
In addition, too many men - not just in this bodybuilding forum, but on this planet - are waiting for some goddamn TICKET or SECRET or HAND HOLDING that will ensure that they make NO mistakes and that everything will be OK so long as they consult everyone on this board and their mothers about every goddamn move they make in the gym, socially, nutritionally, financially, romantically, and sexually.
I agree but again your ranting. This thread is for discussing basic philosophies a bodybuilder should eat, live, and train by to become a bodybuilder.
Unfortunately life doesn’t work that way, and people are now incapable of trying some tested programs for beginners or “cookie cutters” (yeah, they’re actually GOOD for newbs - SS, HST, Bill Starr, Chris Aceto’s or Lee Haney’s or Dorian Yates’ or CT’s info for newbs in their books and articles), continuing long term learning, and making adjustments for themselves AS THEY GO!
THAT, and using their BRAINS!
I do think newbs should learn “how to work out” on a beginner’s cookie cutter program as said above. Dorian Yates’ provides great examples in his books about how to go from newb to intermediate to advanced. One does NOT have to follow HIS exact program, but take some lessons from the book on how to monitor one’s own progress and make adjustments as time goes on.
Starting Strength and The Strong Shall Survive are NOT bodybuilding programs, but they sure will show someone how to lift weights and I’ll be damned if some neeb doesn’t make big strength and size gains froms before embarking on an all out hardcore bodybuilding split. (This is probably where X will come in and apply what I say here to HIM and say that’s not how he went about things while ignoring the fact that he was/is far more indepenent minded and logical and mature and competent than most newbs considering the information they provide us.)
Where did I say one remains with 3,000 calories forever? I used it as a starting point for most men? [/quote]
My mistake. I realize you are a registered dietitian and an accomplished bodybuilder, so you obviously do know what your talking about. I don’t want to argue semantics over the internet.
My point was that Professor X has stated he ate 5000 calories as a 300 pound guy. When he says “Eat big” its relative. Like eat enough to make progress. Never have I seen him suggest to someone to just eat 10000 calories a day for the sake of eating big. Back to thread topic.